Hannah4181 260 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 On swimming my labrador who has done a tendon in his leg, and can't be walked for 6 weeks . . . the best comment yesterday was " Oh poor dog, it may be hot but by forcing him to swim you'll make him scared of water. Theres every chance he could drown" . . . . I just remained silent and smiled as i dropped the line and watched the lab power off into the centre of the lake dipping underwater like a seal as he went! Poor boy indeed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Gotta to say this again, as I'm sure that I've said it before somewhere: the classic one is: "You've got your hands full!" to me with 4 or 5 lurchers standing calmly to one side of the path while idiot goes past, struggling to hold choking, raging lunatic dog trying to get at mine. My standard reply to this type of comment is: "Not as full as yours!" To which they just look confused. :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boyo 1,398 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 the comment thast gets me every time is when i am running one of the dogs by the side of the car when stepping their fitness up someone always remarks what a lazy way to walk your dog shouldnt have them if your that lazy never believe me when i tell them they have just had their long walk this is fitness training .i normally just get a dirty look . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,458 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 IThe majority of people shouldn't own dogs, I can relate to absolutely everything said here and heard worse. Thing is it seems contagious and getting worse I absolutely hate the nice weather as there out in hoards. I refused a woman a pup a couple of weeks back when she stood in my kitchen a nd told me that they weren't dogs, they were hairy humans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Like many people I suffer the consequences of these prat owners. Frustrated dogs yapping all day in my neighbours gardens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 My old rescue mastiff was dog aggressive so I'd always keep him under close control when there was even a chance of there being anyone around. I've lost count of the amount of people who had yorkies/westies/daschunds etc. that would shout to me that there's won't fight, while I'm holding him hard against me facing him the opposite way and deliberately indicating with my body language that he was aggressive. I'd even have people telling me to just let go of him and he'll be OK if he's not on a lead.... And on another occassion a woman with a chocolate lab was coming the other way, saw me grab mine quick and put him on a lead and hold him hard against me and she put hers on a lead and then when she got up to me she let it off!!!! it was one of these gormless fat labs that jumps on everything and it lept on my dog who grabbed hold of it. I told her she was f'cking stupid and apparently it was my fault because my dog was "taking advantage of her dogs friendliness". Normally I shouted to people that we was aggressive but I didn't on this occassion because she actually put hers on a lead when she saw us and then let the friggin thing off!!!! Going back to that post about people not letting their dog off in case it runs off, an old mate from school has got a Whippet x JRT, he's had it for 8 years and he's never let it off the lead in case it runs off It's an absolute nightmare, bounds all over you when you go in, diving all over the furniture, just being a total pain in the arse.....and he can't understand why it's like that, you couldn't make it up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 My old rescue mastiff was dog aggressive so I'd always keep him under close control when there was even a chance of there being anyone around. I've lost count of the amount of people who had yorkies/westies/daschunds etc. that would shout to me that there's won't fight, while I'm holding him hard against me facing him the opposite way and deliberately indicating with my body language that he was aggressive. I'd even have people telling me to just let go of him and he'll be OK if he's not on a lead.... And on another occassion a woman with a chocolate lab was coming the other way, saw me grab mine quick and put him on a lead and hold him hard against me and she put hers on a lead and then when she got up to me she let it off!!!! it was one of these gormless fat labs that jumps on everything and it lept on my dog who grabbed hold of it. I told her she was f'cking stupid and apparently it was my fault because my dog was "taking advantage of her dogs friendliness". Normally I shouted to people that we was aggressive but I didn't on this occassion because she actually put hers on a lead when she saw us and then let the friggin thing off!!!! Going back to that post about people not letting their dog off in case it runs off, an old mate from school has got a Whippet x JRT, he's had it for 8 years and he's never let it off the lead in case it runs off It's an absolute nightmare, bounds all over you when you go in, diving all over the furniture, just being a total pain in the arse.....and he can't understand why it's like that, you couldn't make it up! I can relate to what you said about your dog is '' dog aggressive '' when i first got Rob my male greyhound i used to stop & place my legs over his back end so he couldnt launch himself at other dogs (usually smaller ones) & noose his lead round his neck so i had full control of him, and the amount of people that would walk up to him & allow there small dog to get within a foot or so of him was unreal, i was asked many times why i was holding him so tight I also muzzled him which i thought would be a visable warning to other dog owners , but a few times i have simply stackned the lead & watched there faces change when he strikes at there dog , it always does the trick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,281 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Responsible breeders should be making sure people are aware of the amount of exercising involved etc. .......whats one of those then? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 My old rescue mastiff was dog aggressive so I'd always keep him under close control when there was even a chance of there being anyone around. I've lost count of the amount of people who had yorkies/westies/daschunds etc. that would shout to me that there's won't fight, while I'm holding him hard against me facing him the opposite way and deliberately indicating with my body language that he was aggressive. I'd even have people telling me to just let go of him and he'll be OK if he's not on a lead.... And on another occassion a woman with a chocolate lab was coming the other way, saw me grab mine quick and put him on a lead and hold him hard against me and she put hers on a lead and then when she got up to me she let it off!!!! it was one of these gormless fat labs that jumps on everything and it lept on my dog who grabbed hold of it. I told her she was f'cking stupid and apparently it was my fault because my dog was "taking advantage of her dogs friendliness". Normally I shouted to people that we was aggressive but I didn't on this occassion because she actually put hers on a lead when she saw us and then let the friggin thing off!!!! Going back to that post about people not letting their dog off in case it runs off, an old mate from school has got a Whippet x JRT, he's had it for 8 years and he's never let it off the lead in case it runs off It's an absolute nightmare, bounds all over you when you go in, diving all over the furniture, just being a total pain in the arse.....and he can't understand why it's like that, you couldn't make it up! I can relate to what you said about your dog is '' dog aggressive '' when i first got Rob my male greyhound i used to stop & place my legs over his back end so he couldnt launch himself at other dogs (usually smaller ones) & noose his lead round his neck so i had full control of him, and the amount of people that would walk up to him & allow there small dog to get within a foot or so of him was unreal, i was asked many times why i was holding him so tight I also muzzled him which i thought would be a visable warning to other dog owners , but a few times i have simply stackned the lead & watched there faces change when he strikes at there dog , it always does the trick what a tremendous name for a dog!! I deliberately didn't muzzle mine because he hated it and also because I didn't watch another dog latching on to him and him being unable to do something about it. But also because I always could get full control of him and always took him where I could see a good distance around us for anything coming, and he had sh't eyesight so I'd always see the other dog first. Some stupid pillock had two dogs on a lead once, one was a coonhound type dog and the other was similar in size but I can't remember what it was, as we passed his dogs were going mental then started fighting with each other and then he couldn't hold them and they dragged him across the path into us, my dog grabbed one of his and his other dog bit me on the thigh I had a go at him but didn't do anything about it, in hindsight I should have because it could have been a kids face in the firing line. I was well pissed off, my mrs made me go to the infirmiry to get it looked at, Saturday night sat in a friggin waiting room all night just cos some dick couldn't control his dogs, not happy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,281 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Most folk either put no thought into dogs or go for some wildly overcomplicated phsyco babble Cesar Milan type theories.....dogs just aint that complex! Trust, food, water, know there place and some work (for some!!).....and IMHO you can use those 4 basic principles to do just about anything you want with a dog if you feel like it. None of it is rocket science! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Most folk either put no thought into dogs or go for some wildly overcomplicated phsyco babble Cesar Milan type theories.....dogs just aint that complex! Trust, food, water, know there place and some work (for some!!).....and IMHO you can use those 4 basic principles to do just about anything you want with a dog if you feel like it. None of it is rocket science! You're right, sufficient exercise and knowing that you're the boss would solve 99% of problem with most dogs I reckon. Lets face it though, if everyone who has a border collie, lab, spaniel etc. were made to get rid of it if they didn't/couldn't give it enough exercise there would only be the workers and a small handful of pets that would be left. For me, having a dog is all about having a fit, healthy and happy dog, it's great seeing them running around and looking good. I can't imagine having a big fat lab that can't even run, I just don't see what pleasure anyone would get out of that! And why on earth a normal person would get a border collie as a pet is beyond me! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 My old rescue mastiff was dog aggressive so I'd always keep him under close control when there was even a chance of there being anyone around. I've lost count of the amount of people who had yorkies/westies/daschunds etc. that would shout to me that there's won't fight, while I'm holding him hard against me facing him the opposite way and deliberately indicating with my body language that he was aggressive. I'd even have people telling me to just let go of him and he'll be OK if he's not on a lead.... And on another occassion a woman with a chocolate lab was coming the other way, saw me grab mine quick and put him on a lead and hold him hard against me and she put hers on a lead and then when she got up to me she let it off!!!! it was one of these gormless fat labs that jumps on everything and it lept on my dog who grabbed hold of it. I told her she was f'cking stupid and apparently it was my fault because my dog was "taking advantage of her dogs friendliness". Normally I shouted to people that we was aggressive but I didn't on this occassion because she actually put hers on a lead when she saw us and then let the friggin thing off!!!! Going back to that post about people not letting their dog off in case it runs off, an old mate from school has got a Whippet x JRT, he's had it for 8 years and he's never let it off the lead in case it runs off It's an absolute nightmare, bounds all over you when you go in, diving all over the furniture, just being a total pain in the arse.....and he can't understand why it's like that, you couldn't make it up! I can relate to what you said about your dog is '' dog aggressive '' when i first got Rob my male greyhound i used to stop & place my legs over his back end so he couldnt launch himself at other dogs (usually smaller ones) & noose his lead round his neck so i had full control of him, and the amount of people that would walk up to him & allow there small dog to get within a foot or so of him was unreal, i was asked many times why i was holding him so tight I also muzzled him which i thought would be a visable warning to other dog owners , but a few times i have simply stackned the lead & watched there faces change when he strikes at there dog , it always does the trick what a tremendous name for a dog!! I deliberately didn't muzzle mine because he hated it and also because I didn't watch another dog latching on to him and him being unable to do something about it. But also because I always could get full control of him and always took him where I could see a good distance around us for anything coming, and he had sh't eyesight so I'd always see the other dog first. Some stupid pillock had two dogs on a lead once, one was a coonhound type dog and the other was similar in size but I can't remember what it was, as we passed his dogs were going mental then started fighting with each other and then he couldn't hold them and they dragged him across the path into us, my dog grabbed one of his and his other dog bit me on the thigh I had a go at him but didn't do anything about it, in hindsight I should have because it could have been a kids face in the firing line. I was well pissed off, my mrs made me go to the infirmiry to get it looked at, Saturday night sat in a friggin waiting room all night just cos some dick couldn't control his dogs, not happy! I think his name suites him , one of the main reasons for the muzzle was he was a bugger for diving his head in recycling boxes & then having to wrestle the stuff off him & any bins i passed he would drag me over to them & generally anything on the floor he would pick up & eat , even a condom , i still take a muzzle with me now & i can always stick it on him if i need to . he is a very different dog now , not so stimulated by other dogs darting about , but i still like to be prepared just incase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Most folk either put no thought into dogs or go for some wildly overcomplicated phsyco babble Cesar Milan type theories.....dogs just aint that complex! Trust, food, water, know there place and some work (for some!!).....and IMHO you can use those 4 basic principles to do just about anything you want with a dog if you feel like it. None of it is rocket science! You're right, sufficient exercise and knowing that you're the boss would solve 99% of problem with most dogs I reckon. Lets face it though, if everyone who has a border collie, lab, spaniel etc. were made to get rid of it if they didn't/couldn't give it enough exercise there would only be the workers and a small handful of pets that would be left. For me, having a dog is all about having a fit, healthy and happy dog, it's great seeing them running around and looking good. I can't imagine having a big fat lab that can't even run, I just don't see what pleasure anyone would get out of that! And why on earth a normal person would get a border collie as a pet is beyond me! I agree totally. Compared to most of us that work our dogs mine are decently trained. Compared to most pet owners my dogs are amazingly trained. I never have to worry about my dogs doing anything wrong. However one time my bad leg was much worse than usual so I didn't walk them for about a day and a half. I left them alone for an hour and they chewed everything they could reach. Most people would blame the dogs but I knew it was me that was the retard not the dogs. I think many people get collies because they are known to clever so they think that makes them easy to train and they would be right. What they don't realise is that training is a constant thing and dogs only respond to training when they are exercised and happy. I don't know why people need a really clever dog as a pet. It's not like you can get it to drive to Tescos and do the shopping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 maybe its because i live in the burbs now,but the worst owners on average here are fat labs,not the dogs fault theyre just full of energy from not being walked all winter,untrained,un-socialised,but worst of all completely out of control. then the owners complain when they're dog jumps on mine and gets half its face ripped off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) A vet once told me that the breed most often brought in to be sedated/castrated/put down for bad behaviour was Labrador. Dickhead buys a big intelligent working breed, shuts the dog in a little semi detached all day, walks it 50 yards to the nearest lamppost, lets it have a crap on someone else's front lawn, then back to the goggle-box. The dog is bored shitless, gets all bouncy and aggressive and ends up dead. "But they use them as guide dogs". Yeah, right, and a guide dog is working 24/7! PS My Apsos were great little ratters. Depends how you train 'em . . . Ric Edited June 29, 2011 by RicW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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