fat man 4,741 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for replies lads. I think we can all agree that if the job gets done then the terrier is ok. Now, I am going to drop a spanner in the works here. I like my terriers to look the part as well as work. I do hear guys saying, so long as it works it doesnt mater what it looks like. I personally dont agree as i like mine to look good too. I am not trying to start an argument here but i think i am saying what a lot of guys would like to say. Please remember lads, this is only my personal opinion, yis Del. They could look like judge out of wanderly wagon as long as they worked it dont bother me,id sooner have 1 worker than a 100 lookers. Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Agree with the fat man. Aesthetically the only thing important to me is size. Wouldn't like to have terriers too big or too small. Apart from that it can be the ugliest creature in the world as long as it was in top of its job it is irrelevant. Breeding for looks is the downfall of the modern terrier. Along with £. Each to their own. FTB Quote Link to post
k9delboy 138 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 K9 why would you put a terrier in a situation where it is impossible to dig to it.Thats ok if you have a dog that can finish a job without been dug to'but to enter a terrier that cant is silly imo,ok grand if you can call it off after an hour or 2 when you see that a bolt is not on but other wise its just a waste and if your dog is a mixer its just taken stick for no reason. Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Thanks for replies lads. I think we can all agree that if the job gets done then the terrier is ok. Now, I am going to drop a spanner in the works here. I like my terriers to look the part as well as work. I do hear guys saying, so long as it works it doesnt mater what it looks like. I personally dont agree as i like mine to look good too. I am not trying to start an argument here but i think i am saying what a lot of guys would like to say. Please remember lads, this is only my personal opinion, yis Del. There is no doubting every one likes a worker that is pleasing to the eye or is at least anatomically correct but the vast majority of the lads that go to the shows you go to see looks as far more important than working ability . If most of them had the choice of a stud dog that was an average worker but was a looker and had won a few shows or a real ugly little tyke but was a real grafter in everyway I know which stud most of them would choose ....I know which one I would use though and thats the main thing Good luck with your hunting trips abroad Edited June 21, 2011 by MOO Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 how did he fair out with the bobcat? i would think they would be tough enough. They are seriously tough animals and they have razor sharp claws that come out like lightning. Buster managed to bay this one up untill the hounds came. Even one on one with a fox hound, these critters are mean. He got 3 during my two week trip and when i left, the guy was over the moon with him. He sent old Buster to the vet for 3 days to have semen taken off him to be frozen coz he was so happly with the way he worked. Buster has sired a lot of pups in Georgia. Sometimes wish i had kept him but he was far too hard for my use, Del. Hi Del............i have very limited knowledge in terrier so bare with me please but if Buster was too hard for you then why was it a cracking baying dog in the USA. Has it learnt quickly what its dealing with in these Bobcats?.... Lab, if you ever get the chance to see a bobcat in action then please do and you will realise that very few dogs on earth will mix with these beasts. They are nothing like a wee domestic moggie. They stand about 18" at the shoulder and are quite capable of beating the crap out of a full grown fox hound or a half decent lurcher, Del. Al just say i was being 100% geniune in my question Del, no smart comment mate. Just wondered how a terrier that was to hard for fox realised to bay a bobcat. Did it steam in and get its arse felt the firts time and decided to change tactics.....if so is that a good or a bad sign in a working terrier.....does it show brains or lack of balls?.....cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 K9 why would you put a terrier in a situation where it is impossible to dig to it.Thats ok if you have a dog that can finish a job without been dug to'but to enter a terrier that cant is silly imo,ok grand if you can call it off after an hour or 2 when you see that a bolt is not on but other wise its just a waste and if your dog is a mixer its just taken stick for no reason. Fat man, i dont mean to put any dog in a situation thats is impossible but here is an example. Last season hounds marked to ground to what i thought was a good wee spot. I slipped the bitch in and after she settled i got a mark of 4ft or so and started to dig. After i dug 4" of spoil i felt a clang. There was reinforced concrete here. This turned out to be an old air raid type shelter buried and it was nigh impossible to dig so i had to sit for around 2 hours before my wee bitch came out. Now, if this bitch had stayed i would have been knacked. I understand the point of having a dog to complete a job if required and i have a dog like this but didnt have him with me on this day. Just an example, Del. Question....Were you happy the bitch came out or pissed off the bitch came off,not knocking your bitch but if it did'nt bolt and she did'nt finish it then she came away. Quote Link to post
k9delboy 138 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 K9 why would you put a terrier in a situation where it is impossible to dig to it.Thats ok if you have a dog that can finish a job without been dug to'but to enter a terrier that cant is silly imo,ok grand if you can call it off after an hour or 2 when you see that a bolt is not on but other wise its just a waste and if your dog is a mixer its just taken stick for no reason. Fat man, i dont mean to put any dog in a situation thats is impossible but here is an example. Last season hounds marked to ground to what i thought was a good wee spot. I slipped the bitch in and after she settled i got a mark of 4ft or so and started to dig. After i dug 4" of spoil i felt a clang. There was reinforced concrete here. This turned out to be an old air raid type shelter buried and it was nigh impossible to dig so i had to sit for around 2 hours before my wee bitch came out. Now, if this bitch had stayed i would have been knacked. I understand the point of having a dog to complete a job if required and i have a dog like this but didnt have him with me on this day. Just an example, Del. Question....Were you happy the bitch came out or pissed off the bitch came off,not knocking your bitch but if it did'nt bolt and she did'nt finish it then she came away. Quote Link to post
foxdigger13 114 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 IMO a bitch that goes in and bays well for 1-2 hours and then comes out is quite handy for hunt work, Atb fd. Quote Link to post
k9delboy 138 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 IMO a bitch that goes in and bays well for 1-2 hours and then comes out is quite handy for hunt work, Atb fd. Quote Link to post
CorkyJohn 808 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I respect you for being honest Del but what do you expect? I'm not having a go at you but some of your ideas/actions , IMO, is exactly the reason why theres so much shit about these days. I just think a bloke with 30yrs experience would have seen the light by now. I'm still interested to hear how much work the dog you have advertised for stud has done as he looks unmarked to me for a 7yr old dog unless he is the same standard as your 8yr old bitch. If folk were honest when selling pups & stated they were bred for looks then thats fair enough Quote Link to post
CorkyJohn 808 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 IMO a bitch that goes in and bays well for 1-2 hours and then comes out is quite handy for hunt work, Atb fd. Aye thats why I have only seen one terrier I'd class as decent in hunt service. Would you breed from a dog of that calibre/standards? Quote Link to post
foxdigger13 114 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 No I wouldn't breed from a dog that went in and then walked from it's quarry repeatedly, but as I said they are useful for hunt terriermen, But a terrier doesent have to be very good to make a good hunt terrier, Atb fd. Quote Link to post
Keano 74 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Nice pictures Del hope you have a good time when you head back over Quote Link to post
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