A seriuos question

[KittleRox 2,147]

We,ve all read the pure polecat threads about them being wild/biters etc but how long or more importantly how many litters would you need to breed for the resulting progeny to be considered domesticated.

 

What I,m getting at is if somebody like bunny killer has been keeping and breeding them for over 20yrs and each time he breeds a litter he breeds from the tamest progeny can they now not be considered domesticated

 

I,ve no clue by the way, I have had no experience of the wild types, just interested in peoples opinions

[Ideation 8,216]

Aye, how many years does it take to turn a line of E.U poleys into a line of poley ferrets?

[Ideation 8,216]

It's an interesting question, for me a 'wild' animal is that which needs to play the lottery of survival, looking after itself, so you take wild parents and breed a kit in captivity and you have 'captive-bred wild poleys', if you breed those kits with other kits from same situation, you have captive bred domesticated animals even if they are nuts. You have removed the element of survival, the fittest surviving and breeding. In a number of generations you have ferrets, bred down from wild polecat blood. Maybe?

[Rake aboot 4,935]

Aye!!

 

As far as I can tell, if yeh capture a wild polecat and breed from it,, the the produced litter are then domesticated as they are being handled etc ,,captive fed,, worked,, I understand they will have wild blood in them making them a bit of an unpredictable item,, but if you have bred them for a long time,, they are not exactley wild!!

 

And the minute they are crossed with a ferret,, they are ferrets!! not european polecats.. just my tuppenceworth.

 

ATB

[f mac 40]

am sure there was a post saying they wont work till there x with a ferret , 1 said 1st x 1 said 2nd x

[KittleRox 2,147]

It's an interesting question, for me a 'wild' animal is that which needs to play the lottery of survival, looking after itself, so you take wild parents and breed a kit in captivity and you have 'captive-bred wild poleys', if you breed those kits with other kits from same situation, you have captive bred domesticated animals even if they are nuts. You have removed the element of survival, the fittest surviving and breeding. In a number of generations you have ferrets, bred down from wild polecat blood. Maybe?

Aye maybe, not exactly the same as ferrts or wild polecats but there was a program on the tele when they done a scientific breeding program with wolves and it only took a few generations until the resulting progeny were considered domesticated (dogs)and I take it by that the animals were no longer nervous and quite biddable etc, I lean towards the idea that after a few generations of breeding wild polecats they could be considered domesticated and by domesticated I mean on a par with a ferrets temperament and no need for an out x to a domestic ferret

[The one 8,457]

Surely if your keeping a wild animal in a cage it cant be a wild animal your already depriving it of its fredom?.

[KittleRox 2,147]

Surely if your keeping a wild animal in a cage it cant be a wild animal your already depriving it of its fredom?.

The question I,m asking mate is when are they considered fully domesticated, not captive bred wild polecats

[The one 8,457]

Feck knows the hybrids ive seen came with welding gloves

[KittleRox 2,147]

Feck knows the hybrids ive seen came with welding gloves

[B.P.R 2,798]

I've only ever seen 2, they look like feckin ferrets on roids and I would put my hand anywhere near them even with a welding glove.call me a shitbag but I'd rather get bit on the arse by a badger

[Kay 3,709]

Well I don't want to state the obvious but don't we already have a domesticated polecat yes we do its called a ferret

 

I think maybe some folks just like the challenge , I for one cant see the point of breeding year in year out until you get something that is basically a ferret , the hard work was done 1000' s of years ago , makes no sense to go backwards like I say it must be the challenge

[canis lupus 1]

They did an exsperiant with silver foxes in russian fur farms, over a 50 year period, they now sell then as pets

[KittleRox 2,147]

Well I don't want to state the obvious but don't we already have a domesticated polecat yes we do its called a ferret

 

I think maybe some folks just like the challenge , I for one cant see the point of breeding year in year out until you get something that is basically a ferret , the hard work was done 1000' s of years ago , makes no sense to go backwards like I say it must be the challenge

Aye good point Kay, maybe some folk just like the danger lol

[KittleRox 2,147]

I've only ever seen 2, they look like feckin ferrets on roids and I would put my hand anywhere near them even with a welding glove.call me a shitbag but I'd rather get bit on the arse by a badger

Did you see them local mate ?