Lab 10,979 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 What is all this piss about 'you cant get a dog to let go when it takes a hold' nonsense!!!......if one of these little b*****ds grabbed a hold of my dog and was ragging it about with intent on killing it and the boots in the ribs didn't work then i'm sure me jumping of the ground and snapping its leg would.... Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 it should be pretty simple,if your dog gets attacked sue the owner,people who just want to ban/license everything must be incredibly ignorant or have no concept of freedom. The only problem is compensation is little use if you end up with a crippled or dead dog. I agree,but if the owner of the attacking dog is financially crippled with on going vet/physio bills as well as paying heavily for your mental anguish the problem will soon sort itself. Quote Link to post
Tallyho 181 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Just interested to see how you would "kill it " . Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 It doesn't apply in the situation with the whippet but a lot of the problems with staffys stems down to the stupid laws in this country and how they're quick to jump on people for either stupid minor things or actually protecting themselves. 20 years ago if a teenager was strutting round with a staffy, letting it attack other peoples dogs or generally being threatening he wouldn't have lasted the day out without an adult or older kid giving him a damn good hiding. Same with these moron groups of teenagers that hang around gobbing off at people, all they need is one good kicking and they wouldn't do it again, simple. But people don't do it now because they know they'd run home blubbering and their parents would be straight round and straight onto the police, who would come down on you like a ton of bricks. Again, a few years ago the police wouldn't have given it the time of day. Either that or they'd pull a knife knowing that if they get caught with it they'll get a 'warning' or at worst community service and they won't get named for legal reasons. That's why chav culture exists and that's why virtually ever chav in the country is walking round with a staffy or another type of 'hard' looking dog. I was stood outside a shop with my mastiff last year waiting for my ma who was in the shop and a group of about 8 lads were walking along with an EBT. I used to keep my mastiff under very close control because he was ex rescue and very dog aggressive so I deliberately had his head facing in the opposite direction so he didn't see them approaching. I could hear them whispering to their dog deliberately winding it up telling it to "get him" etc. and as it got closer is tried to lunge which my dog heard and spun round to dive at theirs and nearly ripped my arm out. Luckily I had a strong hold of the lead because I was expecting it but I dread to think what would have happened if they'd have got together, they all sh@t themselves because they'll be used to terrorising old men with mongrels, stupid pricks! These chavs are walking round with their bull terriers, actually trying to get them to be aggressive but they've no idea what they've actually got on the end of their lead and just how deadly they can be. It's certainly not the dogs fault, any dog owned by people like this would end up the same way, and the one that attacked that whippet was probably owned by chavs before it went into the rescue centre. Staffys are brilliant little dogs if brought up right, as I'm sure many owners on here will testify. As for some of the people on here with their "take a pitbull round to kill it" or "don't you know someone with a big bull X", you need to take a bit of a look at yourselves because I hate to tell you this, all this chav culture people go on about......you're part of it! iknow what you mean mate, but as i said on the thread before, if the tables were turned on them (macho men) with these dogs, they might not be in a hurry to slip there dogs on to other people's dogs. Lets face it they are just feckin bullys, give them it back and they would shit there selves, if there staff had the shit shook out of it , and beleve me there some fit+working bullxs that could do it. . I know its going down to there level, but some times in life you have to now+again. And if they fecked my pup thats what would happen ,a year down the line OK, let's take that scenario then....you go along that route with your big bull cross to get revenge on the dog (not the owners who are responsible for making the dog the way it is or the people walking the dog who can't control it....the dog itself), staffy gets off the lead and bull cross kills it. Are the people from the sanctuary going to just shout a few words at you and then be on their way? No, they'd be on the phone to the police and you would be done for owning a dangerous dog, dog would be taken off you and would probably also end up in the sanctuary being walked by the same muppets who don't know how to put a harness on. Then the muppets are walking the bull cross past someone else with their dog and the whole thing is repeated....can someone please explain how that is sorting the situation out cos I don't quite understand. 1 Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 sorry 2 hear this paddy,after your hard work you but into that dog and getting it going ,hope it gets back 100% ,like others have said its mostly down 2 the owner not the dogs ,not long ago a staffie attacked my 6 year oldson and the police would,nt do anything about as the dog was on the lead and pulled its ownwer over Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Just interested to see how you would "kill it " . let it sniff her snatch Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Not being funny but reading this I find it very hard to believe you've ever seen a dog fight never mind split on up Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Just interested to see how you would "kill it " . let it sniff her snatch Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 it should be pretty simple,if your dog gets attacked sue the owner,people who just want to ban/license everything must be incredibly ignorant or have no concept of freedom. The only problem is compensation is little use if you end up with a crippled or dead dog. I agree,but if the owner of the attacking dog is financially crippled with on going vet/physio bills as well as paying heavily for your mental anguish the problem will soon sort itself. If they are already financially crippled your on to plums also then theres maybe kids suffering behind that scenario and they wont pay heavily for your mental anguish either doesnt work like that with a dog fight ffs theres bigger problems in courts these days dogs fights are the last thing theyre interested in Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 If your choking the right place right up at the back of the dogs head almost its gonna let go eventually it cant breathe so it either lets go or passes out its that simple.If that failed to work i would kill it end off.My dogs come first the other dog can go f**k its owner Not being funny but reading this I find it very hard to believe you've ever seen a dog fight never mind split on up Seen loads unfortunately mainly my neighbours dogs Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 it should be pretty simple,if your dog gets attacked sue the owner,people who just want to ban/license everything must be incredibly ignorant or have no concept of freedom. The only problem is compensation is little use if you end up with a crippled or dead dog. I agree,but if the owner of the attacking dog is financially crippled with on going vet/physio bills as well as paying heavily for your mental anguish the problem will soon sort itself. If they are already financially crippled your on to plums also then theres maybe kids suffering behind that scenario and they wont pay heavily for your mental anguish either doesnt work like that with a dog fight ffs theres bigger problems in courts these days dogs fights are the last thing theyre interested in we should be pushing for more responsibility on the owner,not pushing to have our own freedom reduced just to get at people who have a different type of dog. the phrase 'cutting off the nose to spite the face' mean anything to you? Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ive got all the vets fees covered, the vet said only worry is the dogs skin dying and another operation, also the sanctuary now have bought new collars and harnesses- that clip together, added with a muzzle to any dog with any signs of agression, its a very small win protecting other lurchers/people round my house, i said i wudnt get the dog put down due to my mums influence and now she said she's not sure so that verdict is yet to come. imo ive seen staffies fight, my neighbours had 5 and 2 turned on each other, jake the 3 year old male who was very intelligent but huge, and buster the 17months pup was getting to mouthy, that fight was hard to split up and jake came out on top and sorted buster propally the only thing we did to split it up was stick into collar and twist till dog choked am not being funny i do hate the dog that did it, but its not its fault ive realised it happens, the owners im still persuading the manager to let me meet *owners* (they walk the dog friday take it home return sanc sunday) for the past year, they said theyve got a good strong bond with that dog, i said why hasnt it got no re-call, and if there that strong a bond why did my elder brother have 2 wait a good 1-2minutes before they braved up to help him,by this time it was to late. im 17 and you may think i kno shit about fighting dogs, ive read into them and the underground world (its not my scene) jus intrested, i learnt about all bull breeds and ive seen dogs fight, being 17 you see it more than most with lads your age showing there pittys off near the estate, or at the back lanes where i live. its hard to get a dog of espcially one thats trained to do so, but most bull's sort should have prey drive but the fighting blood should be way dead for anyone whos says its in there blood, and you may have all the resouloutions to getting the dog off, which is brilliant on papper but if you heard ''oh no'' turned around and a staffyxlab, making it a rather tall staff, was right there and you had no time what wud u do? tbh im proud my brother put the dog behind him ,cus ive seen this dog and it could scare the shit out of most people,been the vets anyway the sanc covering the fee's and theyre only worry is the dead skin might not stretch over :/, + side the puppy gets her second jab today, theres my little rant, reply if you want or ask me any question on hows the dog, keeping myself buissy as i jus sit with the whippet alot of the time atm Quote Link to post
bird 9,864 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 It doesn't apply in the situation with the whippet but a lot of the problems with staffys stems down to the stupid laws in this country and how they're quick to jump on people for either stupid minor things or actually protecting themselves. 20 years ago if a teenager was strutting round with a staffy, letting it attack other peoples dogs or generally being threatening he wouldn't have lasted the day out without an adult or older kid giving him a damn good hiding. Same with these moron groups of teenagers that hang around gobbing off at people, all they need is one good kicking and they wouldn't do it again, simple. But people don't do it now because they know they'd run home blubbering and their parents would be straight round and straight onto the police, who would come down on you like a ton of bricks. Again, a few years ago the police wouldn't have given it the time of day. Either that or they'd pull a knife knowing that if they get caught with it they'll get a 'warning' or at worst community service and they won't get named for legal reasons. That's why chav culture exists and that's why virtually ever chav in the country is walking round with a staffy or another type of 'hard' looking dog. I was stood outside a shop with my mastiff last year waiting for my ma who was in the shop and a group of about 8 lads were walking along with an EBT. I used to keep my mastiff under very close control because he was ex rescue and very dog aggressive so I deliberately had his head facing in the opposite direction so he didn't see them approaching. I could hear them whispering to their dog deliberately winding it up telling it to "get him" etc. and as it got closer is tried to lunge which my dog heard and spun round to dive at theirs and nearly ripped my arm out. Luckily I had a strong hold of the lead because I was expecting it but I dread to think what would have happened if they'd have got together, they all sh@t themselves because they'll be used to terrorising old men with mongrels, stupid pricks! These chavs are walking round with their bull terriers, actually trying to get them to be aggressive but they've no idea what they've actually got on the end of their lead and just how deadly they can be. It's certainly not the dogs fault, any dog owned by people like this would end up the same way, and the one that attacked that whippet was probably owned by chavs before it went into the rescue centre. Staffys are brilliant little dogs if brought up right, as I'm sure many owners on here will testify. As for some of the people on here with their "take a pitbull round to kill it" or "don't you know someone with a big bull X", you need to take a bit of a look at yourselves because I hate to tell you this, all this chav culture people go on about......you're part of it! iknow what you mean mate, but as i said on the thread before, if the tables were turned on them (macho men) with these dogs, they might not be in a hurry to slip there dogs on to other people's dogs. Lets face it they are just feckin bullys, give them it back and they would shit there selves, if there staff had the shit shook out of it , and beleve me there some fit+working bullxs that could do it. . I know its going down to there level, but some times in life you have to now+again. And if they fecked my pup thats what would happen ,a year down the line OK, let's take that scenario then....you go along that route with your big bull cross to get revenge on the dog (not the owners who are responsible for making the dog the way it is or the people walking the dog who can't control it....the dog itself), staffy gets off the lead and bull cross kills it. Are the people from the sanctuary going to just shout a few words at you and then be on their way? No, they'd be on the phone to the police and you would be done for owning a dangerous dog, dog would be taken off you and would probably also end up in the sanctuary being walked by the same muppets who don't know how to put a harness on. Then the muppets are walking the bull cross past someone else with their dog and the whole thing is repeated....can someone please explain how that is sorting the situation out cos I don't quite understand. i suppose you are right really , but somthing got to be done to these pricks, ok maybe not dogs then , but somthing before a kid gets hurt or killed .because it will happen.! Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 It doesn't apply in the situation with the whippet but a lot of the problems with staffys stems down to the stupid laws in this country and how they're quick to jump on people for either stupid minor things or actually protecting themselves. 20 years ago if a teenager was strutting round with a staffy, letting it attack other peoples dogs or generally being threatening he wouldn't have lasted the day out without an adult or older kid giving him a damn good hiding. Same with these moron groups of teenagers that hang around gobbing off at people, all they need is one good kicking and they wouldn't do it again, simple. But people don't do it now because they know they'd run home blubbering and their parents would be straight round and straight onto the police, who would come down on you like a ton of bricks. Again, a few years ago the police wouldn't have given it the time of day. Either that or they'd pull a knife knowing that if they get caught with it they'll get a 'warning' or at worst community service and they won't get named for legal reasons. That's why chav culture exists and that's why virtually ever chav in the country is walking round with a staffy or another type of 'hard' looking dog. I was stood outside a shop with my mastiff last year waiting for my ma who was in the shop and a group of about 8 lads were walking along with an EBT. I used to keep my mastiff under very close control because he was ex rescue and very dog aggressive so I deliberately had his head facing in the opposite direction so he didn't see them approaching. I could hear them whispering to their dog deliberately winding it up telling it to "get him" etc. and as it got closer is tried to lunge which my dog heard and spun round to dive at theirs and nearly ripped my arm out. Luckily I had a strong hold of the lead because I was expecting it but I dread to think what would have happened if they'd have got together, they all sh@t themselves because they'll be used to terrorising old men with mongrels, stupid pricks! These chavs are walking round with their bull terriers, actually trying to get them to be aggressive but they've no idea what they've actually got on the end of their lead and just how deadly they can be. It's certainly not the dogs fault, any dog owned by people like this would end up the same way, and the one that attacked that whippet was probably owned by chavs before it went into the rescue centre. Staffys are brilliant little dogs if brought up right, as I'm sure many owners on here will testify. As for some of the people on here with their "take a pitbull round to kill it" or "don't you know someone with a big bull X", you need to take a bit of a look at yourselves because I hate to tell you this, all this chav culture people go on about......you're part of it! iknow what you mean mate, but as i said on the thread before, if the tables were turned on them (macho men) with these dogs, they might not be in a hurry to slip there dogs on to other people's dogs. Lets face it they are just feckin bullys, give them it back and they would shit there selves, if there staff had the shit shook out of it , and beleve me there some fit+working bullxs that could do it. . I know its going down to there level, but some times in life you have to now+again. And if they fecked my pup thats what would happen ,a year down the line OK, let's take that scenario then....you go along that route with your big bull cross to get revenge on the dog (not the owners who are responsible for making the dog the way it is or the people walking the dog who can't control it....the dog itself), staffy gets off the lead and bull cross kills it. Are the people from the sanctuary going to just shout a few words at you and then be on their way? No, they'd be on the phone to the police and you would be done for owning a dangerous dog, dog would be taken off you and would probably also end up in the sanctuary being walked by the same muppets who don't know how to put a harness on. Then the muppets are walking the bull cross past someone else with their dog and the whole thing is repeated....can someone please explain how that is sorting the situation out cos I don't quite understand. i suppose you are right really , but somthing got to be done to these pricks, ok maybe not dogs then , but somthing before a kid gets hurt or killed .because it will happen.! A kick up the arse is the only language they understand unfortunately! Quote Link to post
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