Guest jackpot Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 How will the whippet racing be run to make sure its only pure whippets that race? or wil it just be an under 21 lurcher race like moira or bally walter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlbertJ 569 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 How will the whippet racing be run to make sure its only pure whippets that race? or wil it just be an under 21 lurcher race like moira or bally walter. I can't speak for Moira - but I was unaware that there was any controversy over Ballywalter. If you have concerns about the status of any dog you have the right to take it up AT THE TIME of the race with the race organisers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the low flyer 2 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 The only way to be sure is have it for KC registered whippets and you have to produce your papers when entering Most of the whippets that race in the north are KC registered cant see this being a problem in fact i would say most of the whippet folk would be all for it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jackpot Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 albert, there are two whippet racing clubs in ni, one just starting up and one runs racing in antrim, why dont you ask them people for advise. when you say take it up on the day,how when you dont have to take your dog with you to pay you could enter anything and the organisor wont want to know he wouldnt even give a rerun last year when the lure broke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebell 418 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 The only way to be sure is have it for KC registered whippets and you have to produce your papers when entering Most of the whippets that race in the north are KC registered cant see this being a problem in fact i would say most of the whippet folk would be all for it Have to agree with you low flyer, my own wee dog Paris is of whippet type but she is not a full whippet but maybe more whippet than most of them in the whippet racing, if you cant give the breeding of the dog, give the name of both parents, whos to say its a whippet, only the owner... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebell 418 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 How will the whippet racing be run to make sure its only pure whippets that race? or wil it just be an under 21 lurcher race like moira or bally walter. I can't speak for Moira - but I was unaware that there was any controversy over Ballywalter. If you have concerns about the status of any dog you have the right to take it up AT THE TIME of the race with the race organisers. Whos to say its pure whippets that race when theres no papers, i think U21 lurchers racing would be good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebell 418 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 How will the whippet racing be run to make sure its only pure whippets that race? or wil it just be an under 21 lurcher race like moira or bally walter. I dont remember Moira or Ballywalter running a U21 lurcher race, i would have put Paris and Rose's Zola into it lol i do remember a pure whippet race with no papers been run lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been hunter 8 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 i think it is a bit unrealistic to say that only whippets with papers should be racing. Not everyone can afford the big money for papers with their dogs, so why should they be the ones to lose out they have just as much right as any to go to the shows and enjoy them. I have whippets with papers and some without. The ones without are pure whippets from good lines, but i couldnt afford the papers for them so are then any less a whippet? Not everyone can be kept happy at these shows. There will always be question marks over exact breeding thats just the way it is. At the end of the day no matter what the dog, the owner has to hunt it or train it to chase a lure so there is more involved than just the breeding. I could have a unmarked greyhound that couldnt run the lenght of himself, so am I automatically gonna win the race? We are all competetive, theres no harm in that, but coming on here and naming names etc is going too far. Some people should get their own house in order before complaining about others. People only owning up to things because they have already been caught out, not because they are good people. Let the organisers make the call on the day about a certain dog and thats final. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longstone lad 1 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 albert, there are two whippet racing clubs in ni, one just starting up and one runs racing in antrim, why dont you ask them people for advise. when you say take it up on the day,how when you dont have to take your dog with you to pay you could enter anything and the organisor wont want to know he wouldnt even give a rerun last year when the lure broke. 2 clubs i thought ther was only 1 is this another club to cause tension among the whippet people or is it 1 for the people that cant win at the other club or cant get ther own way just my thought on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been hunter 8 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 albert, there are two whippet racing clubs in ni, one just starting up and one runs racing in antrim, why dont you ask them people for advise. when you say take it up on the day,how when you dont have to take your dog with you to pay you could enter anything and the organisor wont want to know he wouldnt even give a rerun last year when the lure broke. 2 clubs i thought ther was only 1 is this another club to cause tension among the whippet people or is it 1 for the people that cant win at the other club or cant get ther own way just my thought on it totally agree longstone lad, the proper sporting whippet club is the only one as far as i know. the other is some idgit trying to start his own so that he can win all the time with his 'kc reg' whippet. why does this person not attend the sporting whippet club and offer opinions in it for a seperate papers only whippet race as well as open racing??? possibly coz they never win anything? and yet they 'represent' the whippet community apparently? there is no problem with the whippet racing as far as im concerned, while they are no kc reg only racing thats just life, whipeets can come in all different sizes and throwbacks so how can people tell if it is a pure breed or not?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been hunter 8 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 The only way to be sure is have it for KC registered whippets and you have to produce your papers when entering Most of the whippets that race in the north are KC registered cant see this being a problem in fact i would say most of the whippet folk would be all for it Have to agree with you low flyer, my own wee dog Paris is of whippet type but she is not a full whippet but maybe more whippet than most of them in the whippet racing, if you cant give the breeding of the dog, give the name of both parents, whos to say its a whippet, only the owner... care to explain that comment? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlbertJ 569 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 i think it is a bit unrealistic to say that only whippets with papers should be racing. Not everyone can afford the big money for papers with their dogs, so why should they be the ones to lose out they have just as much right as any to go to the shows and enjoy them. I have whippets with papers and some without. The ones without are pure whippets from good lines, but i couldnt afford the papers for them so are then any less a whippet? Not everyone can be kept happy at these shows. There will always be question marks over exact breeding thats just the way it is. At the end of the day no matter what the dog, the owner has to hunt it or train it to chase a lure so there is more involved than just the breeding. I could have a unmarked greyhound that couldnt run the lenght of himself, so am I automatically gonna win the race? We are all competetive, theres no harm in that, but coming on here and naming names etc is going too far. Some people should get their own house in order before complaining about others. People only owning up to things because they have already been caught out, not because they are good people. Let the organisers make the call on the day about a certain dog and thats final. I agree with you on this one - it is not a KC event and certainly at this late stage we cannot put in new rules for Shanes. If anyone is really concerned about the legitimacy of a particular dog please raise it with me at Shanes and I will have a quiet word with the owner. AlbertJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebell 418 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Have to agree it is a bit unrealistic to say that only whippets with papers should be racing 'been hunter' has said, whippets can come in all different sizes and throwbacks so how can people tell if it is a pure breed or not?? if thats the case who has the right to question anyone's whippet, if the owner says it a whippet and noone can prove different then its a whippet.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
been hunter 8 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Have to agree it is a bit unrealistic to say that only whippets with papers should be racing 'been hunter' has said, whippets can come in all different sizes and throwbacks so how can people tell if it is a pure breed or not?? if thats the case who has the right to question anyone's whippet, if the owner says it a whippet and noone can prove different then its a whippet.. I agree, no one really has the right, possibly only the people in charge but if they 'disqualify' dogs then we will start to loose numbers in the shows. If someone asked me the breeding of my dog i would tell them what it is. at the end of the day is a sport to enjoy and every dog will have his day so everyone will get a turn at the winning some how without having the need to cheat. albert, I agree you cant change the rules and fair play for putting it out there that if people have issues on the dya that you are their point of contact. interesting to see if the people mouthing out on here will let themselves be known to you!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedy1234 5 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Have to agree it is a bit unrealistic to say that only whippets with papers should be racing 'been hunter' has said, whippets can come in all different sizes and throwbacks so how can people tell if it is a pure breed or not?? if thats the case who has the right to question anyone's whippet, if the owner says it a whippet and noone can prove different then its a whippet.. I agree, no one really has the right, possibly only the people in charge but if they 'disqualify' dogs then we will start to loose numbers in the shows. If someone asked me the breeding of my dog i would tell them what it is. at the end of the day is a sport to enjoy and every dog will have his day so everyone will get a turn at the winning some how without having the need to cheat. albert, I agree you cant change the rules and fair play for putting it out there that if people have issues on the dya that you are their point of contact. interesting to see if the people mouthing out on here will let themselves be known to you!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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