lurcher330 2,297 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 thought i'd ask this how many lads let their terriers see their first quarry from the stop end or do you want them to enter completely on their own .i've been out with lads and when they have dug to a working terrier they have let young dogs to have a go when they lift the other terrier.i have let young dogs in after i have dug but only if they will travel from one of the original entrances but letting them straight in from the freshly dug hole will not do any good when it comes to finding quarry 1 Quote Link to post
wilko tango 50 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 i wish you luck trying to get a dog to travel from one of the entrance holes after they ve seen a hole opened thats freshly dug 1 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) i wish you luck trying to get a dog to travel from one of the entrance holes after they ve seen a hole opened thats freshly dug thats the same way i view it mate thats why i steak them at the entrance and dont let them see the dig Edited June 14, 2011 by lurcher330 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. 1 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. i find that steaking them at the entrance so they can hear whats gong on makes them more willing to travel Quote Link to post
x38 179 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. Quote Link to post
Cueball 12 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. Good reply! Would you say that terriers that are on the larger size are harder started? You no what i mean?less room to move,having to push himself into the hole? Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. Quote Link to post
Waz 4,252 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. Have seen a few that are fans of tipping their dogs in at stopends in a bid to get their dog some action when its already been tried & wont go and find for itself. Edited June 14, 2011 by GD Waz Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 most lads down my way will show a young dog one stop end and thats it cause if they showed the any more thay wont be willing to travel to find the game ,they just get too dam lazy. Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 so lads yis reckon it's no harm to let them straight in but let them travel to the stop if their willing to go Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 This is an open forum and what your talking about is totally illegal unless of course your talking about shooting the game first Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 This is an open forum and what your talking about is totally illegal unless of course your talking about shooting the game first of course Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I dont think it does a young terrier any harm to have a look in a stopend,after al they have to know there's something in there worth traveling for.But in sayiny this i also think once or twice is enough as they can get to fond of the short end and not want to travel.Some will enter themselves more need a little encouragement,its al part an parsel of entering a young dog.JMHO. Good reply! Would you say that terriers that are on the larger size are harder started? You no what i mean?less room to move,having to push himself into the hole? I think its down to the mentality of the terrier,you'll see some that are tearing the sod of to get goin and others have to begently coaxed along.A large type will struggle to go in a small earth if it has no experience,where as a small one can travel through the tubes easy enough without having to push on or dig its way up to its quarry.We always try to pick the right earths to start entering a young dog,somewhere they will have no bother and where they can be dug to fairly quick for there first few outings,as they will come on in confidence big time with a few digs over them.I had a black dog one time that entered no prob on his own no stopending and would find no sweat its when we started to dig on top of him that the problem started.He would be there till you almost broke through,but when he felt you breaking through he was out,did not like the soil coming down on him.We soon realised what was wrong so dug behind him a few times and no prob,then start diging around him in the dig and after a couple of these he came around to the idea that the soil falling on him was not gona harm him.I think patience with young stock comes into entering a young terrier,and a lot of people just dont have it.I have ruined a couple of good well bred dogs over the years from not having the patience to hold them back,and others i did not keep long enough only for someone else to spend that extra couple of months and end up with a good diging dog. Quote Link to post
Black Dog Enthusiast 0 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Once at the most twice is all that i would show a young dog. Too much can have the dog pick up a bad habit. Quote Link to post
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