boyo 1,398 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 They actually do mate. PETA euthanise 97% of all animals they rescue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 2,765 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendrover 556 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . in areas where hares were coursed,not lamped or shot the numbers would go down over the course of the season.but by the time the next season came round there was a healthy population.and on the merry cycle would go ,but the gun kills indiscriminently,where as the dog will knock the weak over and the strong only got stronger and wiser .the true hare hunter has respect for the ultimate athlete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . All of this assumes that the anti's give a f**k about animals but the fact is they don't it is all about the crusade and having a reason to live their shitty lives they need a purpose to feel fulfilled and if that is fighting what they see as the moral high ground then so be it.How sad that they feel the need to worry about what we do when most of us enjoy our lives hunting that we don't have time to give a f**k what others do with their's 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 2,765 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . in areas where hares were coursed,not lamped or shot the numbers would go down over the course of the season.but by the time the next season came round there was a healthy population.and on the merry cycle would go ,but the gun kills indiscriminently,where as the dog will knock the weak over and the strong only got stronger and wiser .the true hare hunter has respect for the ultimate athlete To tru mate how could they get it so wrong, each to there own but as you say with a dog the strong survives which in turn breeds healthier stronger hares were as with a gun its non selective the gun wipes out the young the weak the old the strong they dont get a chance n the numbers they wipe out is criminal thats not control its a blood bath massicar n they dont always get killed outright do they, weres the sence in that n weres the respect for our great hare, like i say i dont really want to knock another mans sport but choosing the gun over a dog there nuts, dog verses hare the hare gets caught or gets away and lives to fight another day with a few more tricks up her sleeve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendrover 556 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . in areas where hares were coursed,not lamped or shot the numbers would go down over the course of the season.but by the time the next season came round there was a healthy population.and on the merry cycle would go ,but the gun kills indiscriminently,where as the dog will knock the weak over and the strong only got stronger and wiser .the true hare hunter has respect for the ultimate athlete To tru mate how could they get it so wrong, each to there own but as you say with a dog the strong survives which in turn breeds healthier stronger hares were as with a gun its non selective the gun wipes out the young the weak the old the strong they dont get a chance n the numbers they wipe out is criminal thats not control its a blood bath massicar n they dont always get killed outright do they, weres the sence in that n weres the respect for our great hare, like i say i dont really want to knock another mans sport but choosing the gun over a dog there nuts, dog verses hare the hare gets caught or gets away and lives to fight another day with a few more tricks up her sleeve. agreed L .and in some cases under this law of theirs,if a mammal is badly injured and cant be dispatched,what do they do.SEND FOR THE DOGS .lunacy mate lunacy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Antis seem to think theyre "liberating animals" when infact theyre not.Seen it at dogs shows antis pouring white paint on dogs cos you cant get it out their coat and it ruins the dog for future showing.This goes to show the mentality of them all to me.Risking giving a dog burns or skin problems for the rest of its puff just so it cant walk round a ring years ago setting up snares to catch dogs legs so it would be put out of the game they all live in cloud f*****g cuckoo land tbh.When i worked for glasgow zoo they used to kick off daily up there and for what reason really.Breaking in letting dangerous animals loose that would kill not only the local wildlife but people kids etc as well.Not mention if the animal cant be secured quickly its shot dead to stop any danger to the public.If they could just understand the land and animals the way we all do life would be easier but then half of them come from rich families and have money thrown at them left and right not like the rest of us who have bills to pay and mouths to feed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coney clucky 93 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . in areas where hares were coursed,not lamped or shot the numbers would go down over the course of the season.but by the time the next season came round there was a healthy population.and on the merry cycle would go ,but the gun kills indiscriminently,where as the dog will knock the weak over and the strong only got stronger and wiser .the true hare hunter has respect for the ultimate athlete To tru mate how could they get it so wrong, each to there own but as you say with a dog the strong survives which in turn breeds healthier stronger hares were as with a gun its non selective the gun wipes out the young the weak the old the strong they dont get a chance n the numbers they wipe out is criminal thats not control its a blood bath massicar n they dont always get killed outright do they, weres the sence in that n weres the respect for our great hare, like i say i dont really want to knock another mans sport but choosing the gun over a dog there nuts, dog verses hare the hare gets caught or gets away and lives to fight another day with a few more tricks up her sleeve. law of nature is survival of the fittest but with the ban in its survival of the ones that dont get shot at and the weak and elderly can survive in these areas only to breed again next year which will only lead to the detriment of the hare and this can be true with many other once hunted animals the gun as others have said dont take only the weak or slow but takes all in right hands dont think the ban will ever be lifted as to much time and money spent forcing it in we just got to keep hunting and fck the ban after all mans been hunting since time began and our dogs were our tools Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munster man 118 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 just watched a video of the hares on altcar before the ban came in they were running round everywhere.now if the rumours are even half true they are thin on the ground around there compared to preban numbers and it got me thinking the average anti would prefer to see no hares at all if it meant no one was hunting them which is so wrong and proves that they havnt a clue when it comes to conservation and actually having the animals future at heart.the ban was wrong in so many ways but none moreso than saying it was for the welfare of the animals themselves how can this be true when theres more being killed than ever with fox and hare drives and not having a go at shooters just the ban itself and the reasons for bringing it in . All of this assumes that the anti's give a f**k about animals but the fact is they don't it is all about the crusade and having a reason to live their shitty lives they need a purpose to feel fulfilled and if that is fighting what they see as the moral high ground then so be it.How sad that they feel the need to worry about what we do when most of us enjoy our lives hunting that we don't have time to give a f**k what others do with their's very well said mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fidodido 30 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Antis seem to think theyre "liberating animals" when infact theyre not.Seen it at dogs shows antis pouring white paint on dogs cos you cant get it out their coat and it ruins the dog for future showing.This goes to show the mentality of them all to me.Risking giving a dog burns or skin problems for the rest of its puff just so it cant walk round a ring years ago setting up snares to catch dogs legs so it would be put out of the game they all live in cloud f*****g cuckoo land tbh.When i worked for glasgow zoo they used to kick off daily up there and for what reason really.Breaking in letting dangerous animals loose that would kill not only the local wildlife but people kids etc as well.Not mention if the animal cant be secured quickly its shot dead to stop any danger to the public.If they could just understand the land and animals the way we all do life would be easier but then half of them come from rich families and have money thrown at them left and right not like the rest of us who have bills to pay and mouths to feed. if an anti did that to my dog a would poke there eyes out an they can fetch the police see if i give a fukc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 most the antis are "veggies" so dont want the hares competeing for their food on a more serious note there are some brain washed twats that think there should be less livestock as them and the fodder grown to keep them,takes up valuable space that could be used for growing non meat food products for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vld 62 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 this is an interesting thread,simply for the fact that the anti's that do moniter this site may "LEARN" or try to understand what they are up against when they try an supress the hunting people of the world.love the piont about man an wolf hunting together since the dawn of time,would have loved to see how that arrangement started but can onlly assume it was not to different from today,found a pup an reared it as part of the team,with a few minor differences of course.(no bill's,no cars,no anti's saying you should'nt kill that wooly mammoth for food "cos its cruel"). ok so we maynot have to hunt for food now like we did then but im a firm believer that the majority of hunting folk have got wildlife in general at heart and by that i mean the care an keep of there own dogs,(tools as they have been referred to),the balance of nature where it has been proven that if left to its own devices one would far out weigh the other,sorry to digress but look at the dodo,never bothered learning to fly because it never needed to,no natural predators lived on mauritius,but then man landed an WHAM,dogs cats an rats wiped em out aswell as man eating them like we do chickens today.that was not one of mans finest moments because we were ignorant,we didnt know that they were only native to that island,but what we know today is immense.It's not changing the course of nature as such but more like we are keeping an eye on things. somebody who releases a load of mink from a fashion farm (which i am not a fan of by the way) that are not indigenous to this country,for me,either has'nt thought it through properly or does'nt have wildlife in general at heart,because we all know what resulted in that william wallace moment..............because its possible that maybe 1 anti may read this i will say it anyway,local surrounding wildlife got wiped out,ground nesting birds did'nt have a chance,water vole's vanished ,think even our very own stoat an weasel (smaller cousin to the mink you were saving) took a hit.An lets not get started on grave robbing...... . So there are extremists that take it to far..........like you anti's out there,us hunters have got people that are missing the bigger picture an spoil it for the rest of us an give you guys plenty of ammo,we would be foolish to think otherwise,but they are the minority an we as the majority firmly stand by what we love which is wildlife in general and nothing can shift that.I am not trying to convince you that we are right and you are wrong,far from it,we will never agree that is certain.......................but a real anti would take time out an try an look at the bigger picture or what makes us tick or the varied breeds of dogs that have been designed over centuries for a purpose or different raptors that are used,after all these are animals aswell . Although i may not agree with your anti views i will respect an try to understand them but i would expect nothing less in return from a legitimate anti........... I will own and work my dogs for as long as i can walk them fields,enjoying WILDLIFE IN GENERAL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhilProp 51 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Antis seem to think theyre "liberating animals" when infact theyre not.Seen it at dogs shows antis pouring white paint on dogs cos you cant get it out their coat and it ruins the dog for future showing.This goes to show the mentality of them all to me.Risking giving a dog burns or skin problems for the rest of its puff just so it cant walk round a ring years ago setting up snares to catch dogs legs so it would be put out of the game they all live in cloud f*****g cuckoo land tbh.When i worked for glasgow zoo they used to kick off daily up there and for what reason really.Breaking in letting dangerous animals loose that would kill not only the local wildlife but people kids etc as well.Not mention if the animal cant be secured quickly its shot dead to stop any danger to the public.If they could just understand the land and animals the way we all do life would be easier but then half of them come from rich families and have money thrown at them left and right not like the rest of us who have bills to pay and mouths to feed. I can honestly say ive never witnessed that extreme but if someone hurt ,injured or tried to do anything to my dog deliberatly id lay my life for him as he wud if the stuation arised im not claiming to b a hard nut or ill do this n ill do that but id find the ppl responsible n id make sure there skin got burned, melted or anything else the dog suffered n thats jus to get level to [bANNED TEXT] they did to my dog an animal the stuff they r saying shudnt be mistreated. Lol they say some stuff and do another. In my opinion they hurt a lurcher for being bred to hunt and kill but if you had a gurad dog to protect and kill something of yours they will say its just doin its job well here u go the lurcher is. A wise man told me ia lurcher donr want to hunt it wont and u cant make a dog do something it doesnt want too or enjoy. Rant over. And appologises if it makes no sense i was rushin lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 If hare numbers are declining due to the ban, then I reckon it's got as much to do with those who have only started in the game because it was made illegal. Some lads are now killing all year round, just because it's illegal and they get a kick from breaking the law.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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