Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Whoever said "I don't think there is any whippets out there to see the job through to the end single handed" The post above shows it can be done and I'm sure there are plenty of others. I aren't saying they all will, I aren't saying the ones that will won't get hurt and do it all night, but to say point blank that a whippet could not do a fox S/H is quite a statement! Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 well, some do some dont. they are not bred for fox. but, some whippets are hard and the odd one takes them single handed. personally, i would not run my whippet single handed on one. the ones my whippet get, are usually with my lurcher. its not just the dog, sometimes, you can get some bloody hard foxes!! that can fight hard and puncture/rip a dog up bad! if a whippet on its own, came across one of these and you had no strong stick to kill the fox, your whippet could be in trouble!! just my experience on the matter. Quote Link to post
bluebear 56 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 well, some do some dont. they are not bred for fox. but, some whippets are hard and the odd one takes them single handed. personally, i would not run my whippet single handed on one. the ones my whippet get, are usually with my lurcher. its not just the dog, sometimes, you can get some bloody hard foxes!! that can fight hard and puncture/rip a dog up bad! if a whippet on its own, came across one of these and you had no strong stick to kill the fox, your whippet could be in trouble!! just my experience on the matter. lazycunt on here uses his wellie boot if his 3 dogs cant handle the fox personally if the dog cant do it byhimself f**k him hes not good enough Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 well, some do some dont. they are not bred for fox. but, some whippets are hard and the odd one takes them single handed. personally, i would not run my whippet single handed on one. the ones my whippet get, are usually with my lurcher. its not just the dog, sometimes, you can get some bloody hard foxes!! that can fight hard and puncture/rip a dog up bad! if a whippet on its own, came across one of these and you had no strong stick to kill the fox, your whippet could be in trouble!! just my experience on the matter. lazycunt on here uses his wellie boot if his 3 dogs cant handle the fox personally if the dog cant do it byhimself f**k him hes not good enough Quote Link to post
TAXI DRIVER 549 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Course they fecking can. The largest fox on record is something like 12 kilo. My whippet weighs just over 17 kilo. They both got teeth. So if the whippet has the bottle it'll kill it dead as dead can be. Which makes you realise a fecking 35 kilo plus b/x should do the job with stupid ease. Your whippet`s about the same weight as a coyote.Do you think it`d take one of them as well?Like you say,they both got teeth. Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 why risk a whippets health? Get a BullX. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. good old jai the voice of reason :D i hear what your saying mate but im sorry im not having it a fox fighting for his life wont give up easily and i dont think there is any whippets out there to see the job through to the end single handed mate, they just aint bred for that kind of work Sorry pal but Im here to tell you that when my 21" whippet is clamped on the throat of a fox no natter what size it is it isnt going anywhere. and is soon dead. yes he has the scares to prove it. I have a pack I hunt but as he is the main finder he oftern goes one out with a fox. Taxi driver, that wasn't the question was it. Judge, wouldn't necessarily go looking for them with a whippet (well actually i would), but when hunting cover / bushing etc, what you meant to do if one gets up, watch it walk away? Also if breeding for a bull whippet, i'd prefer a whippet thrown into the mix that had at least had a few Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. good old jai the voice of reason :D i hear what your saying mate but im sorry im not having it a fox fighting for his life wont give up easily and i dont think there is any whippets out there to see the job through to the end single handed mate, they just aint bred for that kind of work Sorry pal but Im here to tell you that when my 21" whippet is clamped on the throat of a fox no natter what size it is it isnt going anywhere. and is soon dead. yes he has the scares to prove it. I have a pack I hunt but as he is the main finder he oftern goes one out with a fox. Taxi driver, that wasn't the question was it. Judge, wouldn't necessarily go looking for them with a whippet (well actually i would), but when hunting cover / bushing etc, what you meant to do if one gets up, watch it walk away? Also if breeding for a bull whippet, i'd prefer a whippet thrown into the mix that had at least had a few furry muff mi old pal. Quote Link to post
lazycunt 59 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Yes what a good lucher is their ya go he is capable of the truth Quote Link to post
lazycunt 59 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 well, some do some dont. they are not bred for fox. but, some whippets are hard and the odd one takes them single handed. personally, i would not run my whippet single handed on one. the ones my whippet get, are usually with my lurcher. its not just the dog, sometimes, you can get some bloody hard foxes!! that can fight hard and puncture/rip a dog up bad! if a whippet on its own, came across one of these and you had no strong stick to kill the fox, your whippet could be in trouble!! just my experience on the matter. lazycunt on here uses his wellie boot if his 3 dogs cant handle the fox personally if the dog cant do it byhimself f**k him hes not good enough bluebear that was a secret between you and me now get it back of before someone sees it Quote Link to post
madhare hunter 23 Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Yes what a good lucher is at least u tell the truth your still learning. Edited June 10, 2011 by madhare hunter Quote Link to post
madhare hunter 23 Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books Whatever mate, your just one of those that think they are always right and everyone who disagrees is some kind of dreamer. I like the way that anyone who disagrees with you is 'talking out their arse' etc. Not sure there are any books on foxing with whippets??? Nah not at all its rare i tell folks there talking out there arses only when they are i do how many whippets have ye seen take fox regular then and do it with relative ease and without getting banged up lets here ye tally Your putting words in my mouth mate. I didn't say ease. And i didn't say not at all banged up. Just refuting the claim you would need a vet I also DID NOT say regular, as that was not the question, it was 'would it be possible'. I'll PM the rest. Sorry i disagree with ye i havent put any words in ye mouth its there on ye post quite clearly (it can be definatly done without banging a dog up to much) and (has the size weight and capacity to do one without to much fuss)a fox is not by any means a push over for any whippet and your right ive not seen it done ive seen whippets get stuck into a fox and not back down but they got leathered doing it and that was 2 and of the bigger type if anybody out there can show me what they think is a good fox killing whippet i say to you bring it here then ill bet whats in my arse pocket i can jack it in 1 night the question i asked was could a working whippet kill a fox i didnt say i was going 2or 3 a day with it just the odd 1. Quote Link to post
nancy 275 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO priceless thats a good one lol. if ye get one iceman il buy it of ye Quote Link to post
nancy 275 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know whippets lmao Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 without mentioning any names someone i trust on here has given me his word he had a whippet dog many years ago that would kill foxes so i stand corrected and will admit i was wrong as he would gain nothing from lying so believe him 100% Quote Link to post
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