johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 In all fairness they could and do kill fox but it would be a pretty drawn out affair and if you weren't on hand to help finish the job it could get messy. Dogs for jobs as they say and a whippet wouldn't be an ideal dog for that job. Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO a whippet would'nt have the same jaw power as most KILLING TERRIERS Your right there have seen terriers have foxes dead before you have even got to them.It really depends on the whippet size and heart my point is there is no reason why a good size whippet cant take on a fox. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Was that the question? I suppose it depends on the whippet. They are not all 18 inches. If a 23 inch lurcher can do it, why not a 22/23 inch whippet???? Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books 1 Quote Link to post
madhare hunter 23 Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. a very good reply as it was a working whippet pup i had been offered the sire had taken fox single handed not every day.thanks again. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books Whatever mate, your just one of those that think they are always right and everyone who disagrees is some kind of dreamer. I like the way that anyone who disagrees with you is 'talking out their arse' etc. Not sure there are any books on foxing with whippets??? Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books Whatever mate, your just one of those that think they are always right and everyone who disagrees is some kind of dreamer. I like the way that anyone who disagrees with you is 'talking out their arse' etc. Not sure there are any books on foxing with whippets??? Nah not at all its rare i tell folks there talking out there arses only when they are i do how many whippets have ye seen take fox regular then and do it with relative ease and without getting banged up lets here ye tally Quote Link to post
suffolkpoacher 219 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 ive never seen a whippet with enough heart to take a fox on its own never mind capebilty ive seen some good bull whippet and greyhound whippets tho there are people selling them for that job dont want bull in my dogs.Any ive seen are to slow. mate your rong if you get a good well bred bull cross your ment to carry the body of a greyhound and keep the head of the bull and fire i personly would go for a first cross collie x greyhound could i ask why the head what is that to do with it,big head dont mean a big heart always Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books Whatever mate, your just one of those that think they are always right and everyone who disagrees is some kind of dreamer. I like the way that anyone who disagrees with you is 'talking out their arse' etc. Not sure there are any books on foxing with whippets??? Nah not at all its rare i tell folks there talking out there arses only when they are i do how many whippets have ye seen take fox regular then and do it with relative ease and without getting banged up lets here ye tally Your putting words in my mouth mate. I didn't say ease. And i didn't say not at all banged up. Just refuting the claim you would need a vet I also DID NOT say regular, as that was not the question, it was 'would it be possible'. I'll PM the rest. Quote Link to post
bluebear 56 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Yes what a good lucher is Quote Link to post
Tomm Parr 30 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Don't be surprised by the doubting thomases: Every other post on this forum is written by one sadly Quote Link to post
bluebear 56 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Yes what a good lucher is aye join the club that lazy c**ts not in it with us yet Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Weight isn't everything, I seen plenty o fat b******s got beaten up with skinny lads. Your example gives a 5kg difference - let's think about it the fox lives in the wild chasing, sleeping in toughest conditions. Most whippets either in warm kennels or in house and spoon fed by owners each day. 5kg's is f**k all! Right, first we're talking dogs not people so an example using a totally different species is a wee bit pointless, there are plenty of small things that can kill big things, i accept that. In this case though we're talking a dog and fox, which when it comes to being two different species they are actually in build and 'weaponry' etc are actually fairly evenly matched. Now the question was not, could a spoon fed, house whippet who is pampered by and old lady, kill a fox? It was could a whippet kill one? Now i'd say probably not to the example you use, the same with a molly coddled poof of a 32 inch deerhound. However what i'm saying is, a working whippet with the fire to take one on and not give in, has the size, weight and capacity to kill one without 'too much' fuss. Now obviously it wouldnt be my first choice of foxing dog, but that also was not the question. So aye i stick with what i say, it can definatly be done without banging the dog up 'too much'. another classic And another joker who thinks that if they have not personally done it it's not possible. Plenty of folk, including plenty of folk on here have killed foxes with whippets and not one offs. Joker moi thanks i may be a joker but i dont talk out my arse and when i do speak i know what i am on about and dont repeat things i hear or read in books Whatever mate, your just one of those that think they are always right and everyone who disagrees is some kind of dreamer. I like the way that anyone who disagrees with you is 'talking out their arse' etc. Not sure there are any books on foxing with whippets??? Nah not at all its rare i tell folks there talking out there arses only when they are i do how many whippets have ye seen take fox regular then and do it with relative ease and without getting banged up lets here ye tally Your putting words in my mouth mate. I didn't say ease. And i didn't say not at all banged up. Just refuting the claim you would need a vet I also DID NOT say regular, as that was not the question, it was 'would it be possible'. I'll PM the rest. Sorry i disagree with ye i havent put any words in ye mouth its there on ye post quite clearly (it can be definatly done without banging a dog up to much) and (has the size weight and capacity to do one without to much fuss)a fox is not by any means a push over for any whippet and your right ive not seen it done ive seen whippets get stuck into a fox and not back down but they got leathered doing it and that was 2 and of the bigger type if anybody out there can show me what they think is a good fox killing whippet i say to you bring it here then ill bet whats in my arse pocket i can jack it in 1 night Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 If a terrier can go down 5 6 ft and take 1 or 2 on in a dead end then there is no reason that a good size whippet cant take one above ground.IMO is there anything you dont know Yes what a good lucher is aye join the club that lazy c**ts not in it with us yet Who Mr WALK OUT :toast: Quote Link to post
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