Border or Beardie cross??

[lurchergirl2 0]

Hi i am interested to know opinions on which of these crosses it more trainable and is less nurotic as only collies can be, the border/greyhound or the beardie greyhound?? I have owned a collie/greyhound x bedlington/whippet who was by far the best dog i've had, the bed/whippet was a george kelly bred dog, do these still exist??

[darbo 4,776]

i owned a beardie cross for 17 years bought him in 1989. he had by far the best temperament of any dog i have owned. very steady very trainable made a decent working dog. cant comment on half cross border never owned one.

[chloejinnie 0]

i am 15 and one have one lurcher, she's a greyhound/collie X greyhound/deerhound but i have always been around lurchers; growing up with a dad that hunts. My bitch is 19 months now and she is so loyal, she just wants to please everyone. she has great speed, strength, agility, intelligence and stamina. i couldn't ask for a better dog tbh. here's a picture of her when i first got her (her first christmas) and her racing (her now.)

[jonnygray 139]

i am 15 and one have one lurcher, she's a greyhound/collie X greyhound/deerhound but i have always been around lurchers; growing up with a dad that hunts. My bitch is 19 months now and she is so loyal, she just wants to please everyone. she has great speed, strength, agility, intelligence and stamina. i couldn't ask for a better dog tbh. here's a picture of her when i first got her (her first christmas) and her racing (her now.)

 

Hey chloe, I recognise that dog. Lol. She is lookin good and you done a cracking job with her! This comin season should be a cracker for you. Keep up the good work. Say hello to your old man for me.

 

Jonny

[wuyang 513]

Ive owned both beardie/border/greyhound and border/greyhound. The beardie/border was a much more natural hunter, more independant,had amazing nose, very rarely injured himself, was the most laid back house dog i have come across, ive never been a foxing man, but my god could this dog find foxes, very good on rabbits with excellent strike. My border collie greyhound has less interest in hunting, just as happy to fetch a stick. If for example i was to hunt the same field the beardie/border would put nose down and eyes up and work the field, my border collie/greyhound woould go 20 yards away from me then come back, i would have to keep sending her back out.

 

My beardie/border in this case a much better working dog, but i dare say you could just as easily get it the other way round as well. I also worked a couple of pure border collies, one that was amazing at hunting up and bushing the other which excelled at lamping. I think it is very hard to sell one breed over the other and as i have found out you can get very different desires to work within the same breed.

[bird 10,013]

Ive owned both beardie/border/greyhound and border/greyhound. The beardie/border was a much more natural hunter, more independant,had amazing nose, very rarely injured himself, was the most laid back house dog i have come across, ive never been a foxing man, but my god could this dog find foxes, very good on rabbits with excellent strike. My border collie greyhound has less interest in hunting, just as happy to fetch a stick. If for example i was to hunt the same field the beardie/border would put nose down and eyes up and work the field, my border collie/greyhound woould go 20 yards away from me then come back, i would have to keep sending her back out.

 

My beardie/border in this case a much better working dog, but i dare say you could just as easily get it the other way round as well. I also worked a couple of pure border collies, one that was amazing at hunting up and bushing the other which excelled at lamping. I think it is very hard to sell one breed over the other and as i have found out you can get very different desires to work within the same breed.

 

 

good answer ive had colliexs(border) and my mates had b/b x greys, and as you say the b/b do seem bit differnt to a borderx. I find the border very robtic kind of temp always one eye on you and what ever its looking at . If i am honest after seeing both work and owning colliesxs, i would only have a small amount of collie in my next lurcher 1/4 max, i really dont think you need that much to catch a rabbit.Most xs will use there noses if given time to do it, and you dont need a clever dog to lamp, most will pick it up after 5-6 times in the lamp. To much collie can be as bad, as to little 1/4 plenty

[Rabbiting man 1,192]

I.ve got a 1/4 Beardie collie 3/4 Greyhound dog his training was spot on i.e sit, down, stay but when I was out for a walk he would eat dead rabbits with a bit more traning now he dont do that any more he starting to use his head and nose and watch what the terrier is doing all in all he turning into a good dog it not my first with Collie/Greyhound its my first Beardie/Greyhound and I would not sell the dog for the love of money hes in my gallery the fawn one have a look

[Steve McHardy 2]

I.ve got a 1/4 Beardie collie 3/4 Greyhound dog his training was spot on i.e sit, down, stay but when I was out for a walk he would eat dead rabbits with a bit more traning now he dont do that any more he starting to use his head and nose and watch what the terrier is doing all in all he turning into a good dog it not my first with Collie/Greyhound its my first Beardie/Greyhound and I would not sell the dog for the love of money hes in my gallery the fawn one have a look

 

the best lurcher that ive ever had ,she was good, had a fat wallet at the time to prove it and she had both collies in her. her mam was a 2nd x gh border and her dad was a hancock bred 3/4gh beardie x would run behind the quad all day. when feeding my pheasants she would lie by the quad outside the pen if i was checkin snares she would jump the deer fence to come with and have a look ( this was pre ban and this dog is now drawing her pension). the only thing with collie blooded dogs and i dont think this is a fault but if they think its a slip too far they dont go. i bred my bitch to a well known co durham 3/4 bull and the pup i kept has turned

into a good dog plenty brain but with a lot more bottle. would like to eventually put him over a saluki / gh x collie/gh for me i think this would suit spot on.

[lurchergirl2 0]

chloe your dog looks super! thanks for all replys so far very interesting reading, my old lurcher is 3/4 beardie/border and 1/4 gh, was and still is very trainable and very biddable, by far the best dog to train, my young dog is 5/8 gh x3/8 border collie, she is also train ing well but is a bit nurotic,i don't know if this down to the fact she is a bitch or not?? she hasn't done much hunting yet due to the fact we dont have many rabbits on the go up here in the north of scotland, she is not a keen jumper, and like mentioned can be as happy with a stick!! She is only 18mths so time yet!! my old dog he sadly is no longer with us was collie/gh x bed/whippet was incredibly bold, took any prey the bigger the better and didn't hesitate at any obstacle, it is such a contrast between the 2 of them.

[Sorley x 32]

I think the typical stereotypes of the border type and the beardie type dont ring so true these days. The only real difference for sure is the coat length. Recently I came across a bunch of supposedly working beardies (they wont) and they all had temparements more akin to borders. I've a couple of border blooded curs here and they are very unborder like.

 

What I am saying is that pick the actual collie with care and go for one that suits your disposition. This also goes for the build, border really do vary an awful lot between heavy cloddy brutes and ones that look like a half-cross. Beardie's tend to be lighter as a rule than the borders but agin this is all dependent on the dogs in the mix. Either way both have the ability to pass on everything a rabbiting cur would need.

[Neal 1,874]

I'd echo what's been said above by Wuyang and Sorley x. Pastoral breeds tend to be very mixed simply because different locations require different things and different individuals have preferred different temperaments over the years.

 

I have three pure kelpies and the two bitches are half sisters yet the difference between the way they work is pretty much the same as the differences mentioned by Wuyang above with regards to his two collie crosses. One needs lots of encouragement to leave my side and doesn't like anybody whereas the other loves everybody, hunts all day long and could find a rabbit on the moon.

[foresterj 1,096]

I think the typical stereotypes of the border type and the beardie type dont ring so true these days. The only real difference for sure is the coat length. Recently I came across a bunch of supposedly working beardies (they wont) and they all had temparements more akin to borders. I've a couple of border blooded curs here and they are very unborder like.

 

What I am saying is that pick the actual collie with care and go for one that suits your disposition. This also goes for the build, border really do vary an awful lot between heavy cloddy brutes and ones that look like a half-cross. Beardie's tend to be lighter as a rule than the borders but agin this is all dependent on the dogs in the mix. Either way both have the ability to pass on everything a rabbiting cur would need.

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