tony1978 3 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 just got a couple of 5 month fell pups, whats the best food for them a totaly raw food chicken? or a good quality dry food at this age? thanks for the help tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 raw all the way mate, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Get them on raw fella. If you are worried about nutritional requirements and you are new to raw feeding then feed them a couple of dry meals a week. Just a decent complete like sneyds o redmills is fine. Don't be afraid to cook meat (no bone) and make your own complete meal. As we speak I've got a big pan on the stove cooking half a bag of brown rice, a big bag of mixed frozen veg, couple of cloves of garlic and 6lb of meat. Total cost about £5.00 and will produce a good few meals for the dogs. I can't tell people how much better the dogs look fed properly. However as said above I'm not against feeding the odd meal of dry and I always keep a bag in. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Get them on raw fella. If you are worried about nutritional requirements and you are new to raw feeding then feed them a couple of dry meals a week. Just a decent complete like sneyds o redmills is fine. Don't be afraid to cook meat (no bone) and make your own complete meal. As we speak I've got a big pan on the stove cooking half a bag of brown rice, a big bag of mixed frozen veg, couple of cloves of garlic and 6lb of meat. Total cost about £5.00 and will produce a good few meals for the dogs. I can't tell people how much better the dogs look fed properly. However as said above I'm not against feeding the odd meal of dry and I always keep a bag in. Gaz Agreed. If theres no bones then you can cook it but as you want to be leaving the bones in ideally then just cook any veg etc you add to it. I try to avoid carbs in mine. I feed a nearly 100% meat and bone diet with veg steamed within an inch of its life and blended twice a week with the water it is cooked in mixed in too. My diet isn't a true raw diet as I also give them any food thats going off and also any left over food from what my family and I eat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarraghsGem 92 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 raw is best; tripe, eggs, bones, chicken carcass,cows tongue, cow/lambs heart, rabbit and whatever else is available as long as it is extremely fresh. if you are stuck use a very good dry food, i like GAIN puppy and sapling (greyhound) my pups are on it at the moment cause i cant split them up that easily to feed raw and they would fight over it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Scalesntails - Out of interest why do you avoid carbs? The bulk of my dogs diet is breast of lamb as I feel this is a good balance of fat, meat and bone. But I like to feed the cooked meal at least once a week. It usually consists of horse meat, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, spinach, garlic and brown rice. Other meals include fatty beef offcuts from butchers, tripe, offal, chicken wings and eggs. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Scalesntails - Out of interest why do you avoid carbs? The bulk of my dogs diet is breast of lamb as I feel this is a good balance of fat, meat and bone. But I like to feed the cooked meal at least once a week. It usually consists of horse meat, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, spinach, garlic and brown rice. Other meals include fatty beef offcuts from butchers, tripe, offal, chicken wings and eggs. Gaz I try and feed as close to a natural diet as I can and in the wild wolves and wild dogs would rarely eat carbs. They would get most of their calories from protein. I do give them some carbs but that mostly comes from left over potatoes or rice but I don't ever cook or add it unless its food going to waste. Natural diet for dogs would be meat, bones, marrow, offal and veg/greens from the preys stomach. Many people do feed carbs but mine seem to do well the way I feed them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Okay thanks for clearing that up. My terrier would do well off a chicken wing a day but I think I would struggle to keep weight on the lurcher without one high carb meal a day but I guess every dog is different. Maybe when he has stopped growing I could cut the Carbs back and feed more raw. Thanks again, Gaz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Okay thanks for clearing that up. My terrier would do well off a chicken wing a day but I think I would struggle to keep weight on the lurcher without one high carb meal a day but I guess every dog is different. Maybe when he has stopped growing I could cut the Carbs back and feed more raw. Thanks again, Gaz. Yes mate. Every dog is different and you're always the best judge of how your dog is doing on certain foods as you're the one that sees its fitness, behaviour, temperame=69+nt day in day out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilko tango 50 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Scalesntails - Out of interest why do you avoid carbs? The bulk of my dogs diet is breast of lamb as I feel this is a good balance of fat, meat and bone. But I like to feed the cooked meal at least once a week. It usually consists of horse meat, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, spinach, garlic and brown rice. Other meals include fatty beef offcuts from butchers, tripe, offal, chicken wings and eggs. Gaz I try and feed as close to a natural diet as I can and in the wild wolves and wild dogs would rarely eat carbs. They would get most of their calories from protein. I do give them some carbs but that mostly comes from left over potatoes or rice but I don't ever cook or add it unless its food going to waste. Natural diet for dogs would be meat, bones, marrow, offal and veg/greens from the preys stomach. Many people do feed carbs but mine seem to do well the way I feed them. sounds good. as far as i know tripe is suposed to be high in carbs.I have my dogs on mixed grub it consists of 60pcTRIPE 30pcBEEF AND 10PCFISH the man i get my feed from minces it all for me and seperates it into weighed bags. its great stuff and keeps great condition on the dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Gaz: if you are struggling to keep weight on the growing lurcher, its more high quality protein he needs, not carbs. Carbs can help to keep weight on an adult dog which is working hard (depends on the type of dog of course) but a youngster should have plenty of muscle meat to help build its body up: strong muscles etc. Think of body builders: they don't eat masses of carbs, but they do eat plenty of protein. I'd increase the red meat content: think heart, beef, venison, horse (superb quality protein from horse meat)liver or kidney a couple of time a week or a little every day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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