bigbailey 90 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Are black eyed whites just really dark red eyed? I've got one with what looks like black eyes but when you put them in a certain light they look dark red? Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Are black eyed whites just really dark red eyed? I've got one with what looks like black eyes but when you put them in a certain light they look dark red? Dark Eyed Whites (DEWs)can have burgundy/brown or black eyes. Quote Link to post
andyp 9 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 We have a Black yed white jill with jet black eyes, they look like little elderberries but catch them in bright light they appear red,apparently its something to do with the blood vessels in the retina reflecting light back through the eyes . Peoples eyes look red if you shine a bright light in them, (camera flash). Quote Link to post
bigbailey 90 Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Thanks for that reply that was very interesting Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? No, a white ferret with burgundy eyes is a DEW (Dark eyed white). White ferrets with brown or black eyes are also DEWS. There is no such technical term as a black eyed white, BECAUSE a white ferret with pigmentation (clearly defining the colour from an Albino) can have various eye colours. The classification is DEW, not black eyed white, but yes a white ferret with black eyes is certainly a variation of a DEW. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? No, a white ferret with burgundy eyes is a DEW (Dark eyed white). White ferrets with brown or black eyes are also DEWS. There is no such technical term as a black eyed white, BECAUSE a white ferret with pigmentation (clearly defining the colour from an Albino) can have various eye colours. The classification is DEW, not black eyed white, but yes a white ferret with black eyes is certainly a variation of a DEW. I don't think DEW is a 'technical term' either. Quote Link to post
HUnter_zero 58 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, you certainly can get Black eyed whites. It's just another fad because people don't like pure albinos with 'red' eyes. There is no official classification for BEW/DEW ferrets, much the same as no real classification exists to quantify coat colour, much is prospective. I have seen ferrets classed as "Polecats" that to me personally look more sandy or ginger. A chap I knew used to specifically breed Black eyed whites and did well with several lines, until too many people knew about it and one night some fu*k wit stole the lot. I've seen Black eyed whites exchanged hands for as much as £100 a ferret, madness in my mind. John Quote Link to post
Jamie m 668 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, you certainly can get Black eyed whites. It's just another fad because people don't like pure albinos with 'red' eyes. There is no official classification for BEW/DEW ferrets, much the same as no real classification exists to quantify coat colour, much is prospective. I have seen ferrets classed as "Polecats" that to me personally look more sandy or ginger. A chap I knew used to specifically breed Black eyed whites and did well with several lines, until too many people knew about it and one night some fu*k wit stole the lot. I've seen Black eyed whites exchanged hands for as much as £100 a ferret, madness in my mind. John Good post zero Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, you certainly can get Black eyed whites. It's just another fad because people don't like pure albinos with 'red' eyes. There is no official classification for BEW/DEW ferrets, much the same as no real classification exists to quantify coat colour, much is prospective. I have seen ferrets classed as "Polecats" that to me personally look more sandy or ginger. A chap I knew used to specifically breed Black eyed whites and did well with several lines, until too many people knew about it and one night some fu*k wit stole the lot. I've seen Black eyed whites exchanged hands for as much as £100 a ferret, madness in my mind. John £100 quid a ferret? Fecking hell mate, some people need help. Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? No, a white ferret with burgundy eyes is a DEW (Dark eyed white). White ferrets with brown or black eyes are also DEWS. There is no such technical term as a black eyed white, BECAUSE a white ferret with pigmentation (clearly defining the colour from an Albino) can have various eye colours. The classification is DEW, not black eyed white, but yes a white ferret with black eyes is certainly a variation of a DEW. I don't think DEW is a 'technical term' either. There are four basic colors. The Sable (including chocolate and dark), Albino, Dark Eyed White (DEW), and the silver. All the other colors of a ferret are variations on one of these four categories. Sandy/cinnamon etc are also a variation of sable. Black-eyed whites are a colour variation of a DEW, look it up..... Quote Link to post
The one 8,484 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Try the american ferrets of the H.E.A.R.T. theres loads more than four colours Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Well, the Americans are a in a b/s league of their own with calling one dark ferret a chocolate but one fractionately lighter a dark caramel or whatever!! Just makes the show organisers more profitable by charging for so many different colour classes! Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? No, a white ferret with burgundy eyes is a DEW (Dark eyed white). White ferrets with brown or black eyes are also DEWS. There is no such technical term as a black eyed white, BECAUSE a white ferret with pigmentation (clearly defining the colour from an Albino) can have various eye colours. The classification is DEW, not black eyed white, but yes a white ferret with black eyes is certainly a variation of a DEW. I don't think DEW is a 'technical term' either. There are four basic colors. The Sable (including chocolate and dark), Albino, Dark Eyed White (DEW), and the silver. All the other colors of a ferret are variations on one of these four categories. Sandy/cinnamon etc are also a variation of sable. Black-eyed whites are a colour variation of a DEW, look it up..... Sorry i was pulling your leg. I understand what DEW means and i know what people refer to varying colored ferrets as. I just meant that 'DEW' isn't really a 'technical term', And ummmm sable??? In good old British working ferret land you have - Polecat. Albino. Sandy. And the new wave of DEW and Silver, which i had never really come across until i came on here, despite being round ferrets all my life. Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 A white ferret with 'burgundy eyes' is a black eyed white??? No, a white ferret with burgundy eyes is a DEW (Dark eyed white). White ferrets with brown or black eyes are also DEWS. There is no such technical term as a black eyed white, BECAUSE a white ferret with pigmentation (clearly defining the colour from an Albino) can have various eye colours. The classification is DEW, not black eyed white, but yes a white ferret with black eyes is certainly a variation of a DEW. I don't think DEW is a 'technical term' either. There are four basic colors. The Sable (including chocolate and dark), Albino, Dark Eyed White (DEW), and the silver. All the other colors of a ferret are variations on one of these four categories. Sandy/cinnamon etc are also a variation of sable. Black-eyed whites are a colour variation of a DEW, look it up..... Sorry i was pulling your leg. I understand what DEW means and i know what people refer to varying colored ferrets as. I just meant that 'DEW' isn't really a 'technical term', And ummmm sable??? In good old British working ferret land you have - Polecat. Albino. Sandy. And the new wave of DEW and Silver, which i had never really come across until i came on here, despite being round ferrets all my life. Sorry about that, lost my sense of humour recently, must track it down...! Sable/filch/polecat is the same thing, just depends who you are talking to.... Personally, I don't find much logic to how people class ferret colours, I believe they make it up as they go along sometimes. I don't make the rules, but i agree with polecat, albino and DEW, purely because most silvers end up as DEWs or DEWs are just that from birth, an albino is what it says on the tin and polecats can be any shade, including sandys. A friend of mine bought a polecat coloured kit, by the next summer it was a DEW (actually a black eyed white ) and has stayed that colour since. I hear lots of odd stories about ferrets dramatically changing colour. But to answer the initial question, yes there is such a thing as a true black eyed white! Quote Link to post
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