collie x grey

[STUNTMAN 552]

just turned 2 year old

NE-Very nice looking animal.

I've kept them for a long time, I'll be sadden when my last one goes. But with all X's its getting it from the right stock. Raised right, handled they are a hard X to beat. My favorite is the 3/4 cross... bunnies to bears here in the states.

[leepieman123 8]

this is my chap gunner,half x

[kenzie 0]

that's a very good lookin dog! I'm thinkin of sumthing like that would do my job!!

Im lookin out 4 new dog, what do yous think of collie x grey's? if [NO TEXT TALK] has any pic's post them up! please!!

 

 

here you go mate, Bryn 1x colliegrey 4 in sep 25in, Brill at his job

 

[gamerooster 1,179]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

[johnny boy68 11,726]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

Pre-ban 3/4 x's made good all-rounders..........though imo they were never prolific hare killers I owned a 3/4 hancock dog that would nail a few though they were hunted up rather than given law.

 

Under 3/4 would in most cases lack a little top end speed.

[bird 9,861]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

 

 

not a hare coursing dog, but as taken odd few mooching, is fast for a 1x ,and as is good on all edible quarry. As brill nose finding quarry, finds loads of birds,rabbits,deer, and to me thats what make him Bryn + them colliexs a good alrounder. But most know they are not apart from rabbits, they are not a specialist dog . If you wanted a hare or fox dogs pre ban you would get the right dogs for the job (salukixs, bullxs,)

 

[STUNTMAN 552]

Very nice pics bird.

[ozzieowl 53]

First crosses can be a bit limited but when crossed back again to any other lurcher cross the dog of a lifetime can be owned.

this is my 3/4 greyhound collie 11mths old

[sighthound123 31]

heard some good accounts of 3/4 bred dogs on hares back in the 60/70's from an old man who kept collie lurcher's now just has greyhounds. He mainly coursed at kirby stephen so not the flattest of land but I've seen the photographic evidence and heard some of the tales of the time. Really interesting listening to tales of yesteryear, he said thats what they mainly kept for coursing here in Cumbria and the good un's had the speed and agility to take a winter hare.

[border lad 1,047]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

It was a very popular breed, in the 60s/ 70s Hill collie bitch with a champion coursing greyhound, that was the best way, out of litter say 7 pups you may get 3 good decent dogs, for all round, edible the rest would make good rabbit dogs, the old fashioned way, hunt a field, do the job and carry back to hand, that coursing grey, back in those times was a well balanced dog, 26" / 27" weight about 65 to 70lb he had the pace to get up to his quarry, and could and stamina to go with,it, sadly those dogs have disappeared, AND THE HILL COLLIE IS NOT AS HARD A DOG AS THEY WERE THEN.

dogs in the 50s/60s had to work for there living, an uncle of mine was a drover, took sheep to market, one man and his dog done all the work, his dogs done so much street work, there pads were very thin and some times he had to put a leather boot over the suspect pads,quad bikes, and land rovers, + there was such a drain on top working stock sold to overseas markets, and then One Man And His Dog, they bred more softer, to be more biddable at close quarters, in fact some of the collies the Uncle had could and would catch a rabbit in daylight, he did not want that side,

of it to Happen but rabbit pie was a common factor in ma Granny's house, it makes me laugh, when a read about a collie xs is useless, if you saw a real collie work, they can turn a beast weighing, almost a tonne, and drive to were his master wants him, then they can go to a field, pregnant Ewes, and Handle them with care, But again, they are only as good as the man who has schooled them,

[STUNTMAN 552]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

It was a very popular breed, in the 60s/ 70s Hill collie bitch with a champion coursing greyhound, that was the best way, out of litter say 7 pups you may get 3 good decent dogs, for all round, edible the rest would make good rabbit dogs, the old fashioned way, hunt a field, do the job and carry back to hand, that coursing grey, back in those times was a well balanced dog, 26" / 27" weight about 65 to 70lb he had the pace to get up to his quarry, and could and stamina to go with,it, sadly those dogs have disappeared, AND THE HILL COLLIE IS NOT AS HARD A DOG AS THEY WERE THEN.

dogs in the 50s/60s had to work for there living, an uncle of mine was a drover, took sheep to market, one man and his dog done all the work, his dogs done so much street work, there pads were very thin and some times he had to put a leather boot over the suspect pads,quad bikes, and land rovers, + there was such a drain on top working stock sold to overseas markets, and then One Man And His Dog, they bred more softer, to be more biddable at close quarters, in fact some of the collies the Uncle had could and would catch a rabbit in daylight, he did not want that side,

of it to Happen but rabbit pie was a common factor in ma Granny's house, it makes me laugh, when a read about a collie xs is useless, if you saw a real collie work, they can turn a beast weighing, almost a tonne, and drive to were his master wants him, then they can go to a field, pregnant Ewes, and Handle them with care, But again, they are only as good as the man who has schooled them,

 

 

BL- Great info, I have a loading shute for cattle at my house , so the men running cattle use it from time to time to sort, ship and stuff. Yesterday a crew showed up with about 8 Q Horses and two cowdogs in the morning and left into the desert to find cattle and drive them back to my place. They showed up with 75 head in the afternoon and saw my dogs at the kennel. They asked me what I hunted and I told them. On rancher said "hell my cowdog can does that" lol. by the looks of his dogs i believed him. A good cowdog will cut a mans work out here in 1/2 in this country and this mans dogs liked the anything with fur. I easly could see one bred to a nice greyhound for some allrounders and defintly 1 more cross to a grey.

 

I see tons of bullx's threads here and I havnt got any thing against them but you have to wonder how the lads survived it pre-bullx. I see here in this country as the way of the "hunter" is slipping away, one who knows every rock, tree stream. When I was a kid and I went deer hunting if I didnt have a compass,fire starter and my knife on me my dad would get VERY dissapointed lol. Now here you have a 50k truck with a 10k atv to get you to a heated blind were you surf the net all day with your smart phone over a man -made food plot.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

It was a very popular breed, in the 60s/ 70s Hill collie bitch with a champion coursing greyhound, that was the best way, out of litter say 7 pups you may get 3 good decent dogs, for all round, edible the rest would make good rabbit dogs, the old fashioned way, hunt a field, do the job and carry back to hand, that coursing grey, back in those times was a well balanced dog, 26" / 27" weight about 65 to 70lb he had the pace to get up to his quarry, and could and stamina to go with,it, sadly those dogs have disappeared, AND THE HILL COLLIE IS NOT AS HARD A DOG AS THEY WERE THEN.

dogs in the 50s/60s had to work for there living, an uncle of mine was a drover, took sheep to market, one man and his dog done all the work, his dogs done so much street work, there pads were very thin and some times he had to put a leather boot over the suspect pads,quad bikes, and land rovers, + there was such a drain on top working stock sold to overseas markets, and then One Man And His Dog, they bred more softer, to be more biddable at close quarters, in fact some of the collies the Uncle had could and would catch a rabbit in daylight, he did not want that side,

of it to Happen but rabbit pie was a common factor in ma Granny's house, it makes me laugh, when a read about a collie xs is useless, if you saw a real collie work, they can turn a beast weighing, almost a tonne, and drive to were his master wants him, then they can go to a field, pregnant Ewes, and Handle them with care, But again, they are only as good as the man who has schooled them,

Top post that border lad. :notworthy:

[bird 9,861]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

It was a very popular breed, in the 60s/ 70s Hill collie bitch with a champion coursing greyhound, that was the best way, out of litter say 7 pups you may get 3 good decent dogs, for all round, edible the rest would make good rabbit dogs, the old fashioned way, hunt a field, do the job and carry back to hand, that coursing grey, back in those times was a well balanced dog, 26" / 27" weight about 65 to 70lb he had the pace to get up to his quarry, and could and stamina to go with,it, sadly those dogs have disappeared, AND THE HILL COLLIE IS NOT AS HARD A DOG AS THEY WERE THEN.

dogs in the 50s/60s had to work for there living, an uncle of mine was a drover, took sheep to market, one man and his dog done all the work, his dogs done so much street work, there pads were very thin and some times he had to put a leather boot over the suspect pads,quad bikes, and land rovers, + there was such a drain on top working stock sold to overseas markets, and then One Man And His Dog, they bred more softer, to be more biddable at close quarters, in fact some of the collies the Uncle had could and would catch a rabbit in daylight, he did not want that side,

of it to Happen but rabbit pie was a common factor in ma Granny's house, it makes me laugh, when a read about a collie xs is useless, if you saw a real collie work, they can turn a beast weighing, almost a tonne, and drive to were his master wants him, then they can go to a field, pregnant Ewes, and Handle them with care, But again, they are only as good as the man who has schooled them,

good thread BL, would you say a ACD X GREY or a KELIPE X GREY ,would make a better x to a grey. As Alot of border collies do seem to have alot softer temp. The feed back on the the ACD and the KELIPE is they are alot tougher type dog. I had kelipexborder xgrey, she was only 1/4 kelipe but she was sharp with people+dogs . Dont know if it was just her or how she was bred .?

[poacher3161 1,766]

Collie hybred back to beddy hybred a prolific pot filler and poachers dog.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

what was this cross like pre ban for hares in 5-10 acres fields for hares? also what is thius cross like for catching feather? how many people would consider the collie greyhound any % cross to be one of the best all-rounder pot-filling lurchers there is?

It was a very popular breed, in the 60s/ 70s Hill collie bitch with a champion coursing greyhound, that was the best way, out of litter say 7 pups you may get 3 good decent dogs, for all round, edible the rest would make good rabbit dogs, the old fashioned way, hunt a field, do the job and carry back to hand, that coursing grey, back in those times was a well balanced dog, 26" / 27" weight about 65 to 70lb he had the pace to get up to his quarry, and could and stamina to go with,it, sadly those dogs have disappeared, AND THE HILL COLLIE IS NOT AS HARD A DOG AS THEY WERE THEN.

dogs in the 50s/60s had to work for there living, an uncle of mine was a drover, took sheep to market, one man and his dog done all the work, his dogs done so much street work, there pads were very thin and some times he had to put a leather boot over the suspect pads,quad bikes, and land rovers, + there was such a drain on top working stock sold to overseas markets, and then One Man And His Dog, they bred more softer, to be more biddable at close quarters, in fact some of the collies the Uncle had could and would catch a rabbit in daylight, he did not want that side,

of it to Happen but rabbit pie was a common factor in ma Granny's house, it makes me laugh, when a read about a collie xs is useless, if you saw a real collie work, they can turn a beast weighing, almost a tonne, and drive to were his master wants him, then they can go to a field, pregnant Ewes, and Handle them with care, But again, they are only as good as the man who has schooled them,

 

 

BL- Great info, I have a loading shute for cattle at my house , so the men running cattle use it from time to time to sort, ship and stuff. Yesterday a crew showed up with about 8 Q Horses and two cowdogs in the morning and left into the desert to find cattle and drive them back to my place. They showed up with 75 head in the afternoon and saw my dogs at the kennel. They asked me what I hunted and I told them. On rancher said "hell my cowdog can does that" lol. by the looks of his dogs i believed him. A good cowdog will cut a mans work out here in 1/2 in this country and this mans dogs liked the anything with fur. I easly could see one bred to a nice greyhound for some allrounders and defintly 1 more cross to a grey.

 

I see tons of bullx's threads here and I havnt got any thing against them but you have to wonder how the lads survived it pre-bullx. I see here in this country as the way of the "hunter" is slipping away, one who knows every rock, tree stream. When I was a kid and I went deer hunting if I didnt have a compass,fire starter and my knife on me my dad would get VERY dissapointed lol. Now here you have a 50k truck with a 10k atv to get you to a heated blind were you surf the net all day with your smart phone over a man -made food plot.

Great post Stunt.

 

Are the cow dogs out there anything like the Australian cattle dogs?