TheYorkshireHunter 2 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Im going to buy myself a Theoben gas ram system for my XL, ive read that it will take my rifle over the legal limit on some sites. If this is the case, can i tune it down any to bring it back to being legal? also any advice for fitting the thing Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi, mate. So long as you get the correct ram in the right caliber for your gun you've no worries about legality I'm just down the road from you in Leeds, mate. If you need a hand to fit the thing, give me a shout. Cheers. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 you need a spring press .I had to file a little of off the cross pin that holds the main spring in the gun.The part of the pin that holds the spring guide in place. Not to much (T W Chambers part number DP008) The gun did shoot well for a time at bang on the limit 177 .The ram failed after a time,so gone back to a spring . The add for the ram likes to stat how a spring loses power from the word go but some power lose can be recovered from a spring with washers.When the gas leaks out of the ram the power loss has to be lived . Quote Link to post
TheYorkshireHunter 2 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi, mate. So long as you get the correct ram in the right caliber for your gun you've no worries about legality I'm just down the road from you in Leeds, mate. If you need a hand to fit the thing, give me a shout. Cheers. Marching on Together!! yeah the thing i read was if i put a 177 in my 22 then it would go a bit mental! i'll give you that shout in advance, cos i aint got the foggiest about stripping down and fitting (sounds so f*****g wrong) cheers mate, i'll buy you a pint! :alcoholic: Quote Link to post
TheYorkshireHunter 2 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 you need a spring press .I had to file a little of off the cross pin that holds the main spring in the gun.The part of the pin that holds the spring guide in place. Not to much (T W Chambers part number DP008) The gun did shoot well for a time at bang on the limit 177 .The ram failed after a time,so gone back to a spring . The add for the ram likes to stat how a spring loses power from the word go but some power lose can be recovered from a spring with washers.When the gas leaks out of the ram the power loss has to be lived . never heard anything like that before, thanks. For pissing on my parade. i joke! ive heard from simon that andy know his shit, and as the offers there i should probs take it, rather that than have my rifle explode in my face (again sounds terribly wrong) where did you get your gas ram from? Blackpool air rifles seems to be the cheapest at 60 odd pound, everywhere else is like 70+ is leaking a common defunk in them? maybe a new spring and tune is another alternative...... Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi, mate. So long as you get the correct ram in the right caliber for your gun you've no worries about legality I'm just down the road from you in Leeds, mate. If you need a hand to fit the thing, give me a shout. Cheers. Marching on Together!! yeah the thing i read was if i put a 177 in my 22 then it would go a bit mental! i'll give you that shout in advance, cos i aint got the foggiest about stripping down and fitting (sounds so f*****g wrong) cheers mate, i'll buy you a pint! :alcoholic: The .177 ram would take a .22 slightly the wrong side of the law but it's totally not worth the risk. Very bad idea It's been said above that you need a spring compressor, it does help but it can be done without so long as there's two people doing the fit. One to compress the ram while the other inserts the retaining pin. I've fitted a quite a few retro-fit ram kits and I've always managed without one. So far!! As has also been said, if it leaks over time and eventually it will, it's fecked. You can't re-fill the after market kits. Only Theobens own rifles and the HW90 can be topped up if needed. Cheers. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I got the ram from theobens .I have put an XS spring in my gun now with a tight fitting spring guide that I made from derlin .and a tophat .I like it a lot more than the gas ram . Quote Link to post
TheYorkshireHunter 2 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hi, mate. So long as you get the correct ram in the right caliber for your gun you've no worries about legality I'm just down the road from you in Leeds, mate. If you need a hand to fit the thing, give me a shout. Cheers. Marching on Together!! yeah the thing i read was if i put a 177 in my 22 then it would go a bit mental! i'll give you that shout in advance, cos i aint got the foggiest about stripping down and fitting (sounds so f*****g wrong) cheers mate, i'll buy you a pint! :alcoholic: The .177 ram would take a .22 slightly the wrong side of the law but it's totally not worth the risk. Very bad idea It's been said above that you need a spring compressor, it does help but it can be done without so long as there's two people doing the fit. One to compress the ram while the other inserts the retaining pin. I've fitted a quite a few retro-fit ram kits and I've always managed without one. So far!! As has also been said, if it leaks over time and eventually it will, it's fecked. You can't re-fill the after market kits. Only Theobens own rifles and the HW90 can be topped up if needed. Cheers. any good with very overpowered HW77's i recently aquired a 22fb and really need it brought down before i go to jail, its a project rifle so i dont take it anywhere. NEEDS SORTING! Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 You may want to delete that last post and send me a PM, mate. Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 The 177 fitted to a .22 will take it around 15 ftlbs but it will kick like a mule and will no doubt bust the stock screws,seen this twice.imoa I would stick with a good spring and new top hat etc Quote Link to post
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