What to tune it to

[stew206 0]

Hey the xs79 getting there and I'm looking for a bit of a tweak with the power so I was thinking 11.8 ft lbs just to be on the safeside..... What do yas think pros and cons

[8shot 191]

Hey the xs79 getting there and I'm looking for a bit of a tweak with the power so I was thinking 11.8 ft lbs just to be on the safeside..... What do yas think pros and cons

 

 

11.8ft/lb using a hevey pellet will take it over the legal limit

[Buster321c 1,010]

How about 10.8 and let it run in for a few months ......

[matt_hooks 188]

Hey the xs79 getting there and I'm looking for a bit of a tweak with the power so I was thinking 11.8 ft lbs just to be on the safeside..... What do yas think pros and cons

 

 

11.8ft/lb using a hevey pellet will take it over the legal limit

 

Not exactly true.

 

If he sets it to 11.8 using a heavy pellet, then it might be ok.

 

I agree it's really far too close to the limit for safety, as the rifle might prefer a different pellet and fire it at above 12 ft.lb. Max for safety is around 11.5 IMHO. Remember that plod only needs to make it fire ONE pellet (not one type of pellet, but a single pellet) at above the limit for you to end up with a caution, and lose your gun.

 

I take it you are talking physical changes to increase the power, as if the power is easily varied to above the legal limit (without stripping down or anything) then you could find yourself in trouble.

Edited May 30, 2011 by matt_hooks

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

11.3 max

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi Stew.

 

Short answer 11.5 or less.

 

 

There is still such a lot of nonesense about "the higher the better" air rifle power. I'm in total agreement with Matt, Buster and Big Bald Beautiful. 10.8 to 11.3 is perfect for whatever calibre your rifle is. I recently headshot a few rabbits out to 45 metres with my TX200HC .177 with a spring that collapsed on the hunt and. I later found on the chrono, was only pumping out 7.6 ft/lbs average. The only thing that went on the downside was the accuracy suffered because of inconsistency in the air charge being delivered and I missed a few more.

 

Last night I headshot a small rabbit out to almost metres with my HW77 (witnessed by AndyFR1968) that's doing 11.4 ft/lbs. A pellet only needs 3 foot pounds to puncture a rabbit's skull and brain and humanely kill it. At 100 metres from 11.5 ft/lbs of airblast, your pellet still has more than enough retained energy to do the job. So an average 20 to 40 metres hunting range is no problem.

 

There really is no need to risk falling foul of the Law for a few unnecessary extra ounces of poke, that a single pellet found by the police labs going over 12ft/lbs can land you with a court appearance before an unsympathetic magistrate.

 

Simon

Edited May 31, 2011 by pianoman

[rapidjenky 97]

every one who says but i heavy pellet will take it over needs to test there rifle with a few different pellets.

 

bisley mags/barra match 21.4gr only shoot at 10.5 out of my rifle but aa field/jsb exsact/rws super field 15.9gr shoot at 11.5 and are the best out of the 30 or so types i have and have tried in my rifle.

 

just because there heavy dont mean there gunner produce the most power from a pcp.

 

is the xs converted to air or still running co2? cause your more likely to go over the limit because its a hot day then what pellet you use if its still on co2.

 

ide be staying around the 10.5ftlbs on a normal day as on a hot day it will run higher.

[8shot 191]

every one who says but i heavy pellet will take it over needs to test there rifle with a few different pellets.

 

bisley mags/barra match 21.4gr only shoot at 10.5 out of my rifle but aa field/jsb exsact/rws super field 15.9gr shoot at 11.5 and are the best out of the 30 or so types i have and have tried in my rifle.

 

just because there heavy dont mean there gunner produce the most power from a pcp.

 

is the xs converted to air or still running co2? cause your more likely to go over the limit because its a hot day then what pellet you use if its still on co2.

 

ide be staying around the 10.5ftlbs on a normal day as on a hot day it will run higher.

 

not in a springer but heveyer pellets do make a differance in a pcp

[stew206 0]

Hey thanks guys especially si I was hoping for you to reply I understand power isn't everything it is just my gun is almost at it's best with available mods so this is something I am looking towards in the near future thanks guys and happy shooting

[rapidjenky 97]

every one who says but i heavy pellet will take it over needs to test there rifle with a few different pellets.

 

bisley mags/barra match 21.4gr only shoot at 10.5 out of my rifle but aa field/jsb exsact/rws super field 15.9gr shoot at 11.5 and are the best out of the 30 or so types i have and have tried in my rifle.

 

just because there heavy dont mean there gunner produce the most power from a pcp.

 

is the xs converted to air or still running co2? cause your more likely to go over the limit because its a hot day then what pellet you use if its still on co2.

 

ide be staying around the 10.5ftlbs on a normal day as on a hot day it will run higher.

 

not in a springer but heveyer pellets do make a differance in a pcp

 

forgot to say i was talking about pcp`s lol

 

still aa field perform much better in my pcp`s then bisley mags by quite abit and there lighter, so please dont think setting a rifle at 11.8 ftlbs with bisley mags will keep you safe!

[shepp 2,285]

Hi Stew.

 

Short answer 11.5 or less.

 

 

There is still such a lot of nonesense about "the higher the better" air rifle power. I'm in total agreement with Matt, Buster and Big Bald Beautiful. 10.8 to 11.3 is perfect for whatever calibre your rifle is. I recently headshot a few rabbits out to 45 metres with my TX200HC .177 with a spring that collapsed on the hunt and. I later found on the chrono, was only pumping out 7.6 ft/lbs average. The only thing that went on the downside was the accuracy suffered because of inconsistency in the air charge being delivered and I missed a few more.

 

Last night I headshot a small rabbit out to almost metres with my HW77 (witnessed by AndyFR1968) that's doing 11.4 ft/lbs. A pellet only needs 3 foot pounds to puncture a rabbit's skull and brain and humanely kill it. At 100 metres from 11.5 ft/lbs of airblast, your pellet still has more than enough retained energy to do the job. So an average 20 to 40 metres hunting range is no problem.

 

There really is no need to risk falling foul of the Law for a few unnecessary extra ounces of poke, that a single pellet found by the police labs going over 12ft/lbs can land you with a court appearance before an unsympathetic magistrate.

 

Simon

 

Simon, did you use a range finder in conjunction with mill dots to achieve such long distance kills?

[XTX 0]

every one who says but i heavy pellet will take it over needs to test there rifle with a few different pellets.

 

bisley mags/barra match 21.4gr only shoot at 10.5 out of my rifle but aa field/jsb exsact/rws super field 15.9gr shoot at 11.5 and are the best out of the 30 or so types i have and have tried in my rifle.

 

just because there heavy dont mean there gunner produce the most power from a pcp.

 

is the xs converted to air or still running co2? cause your more likely to go over the limit because its a hot day then what pellet you use if its still on co2.

 

ide be staying around the 10.5ftlbs on a normal day as on a hot day it will run higher.

A heavy pellet (Bisley Magnum, JSB heavy) is best for setting the power on a .177 PCP

A mid-weight pellet like a AA Field or JSB Jumbo is best for setting the power on a .22 PCP (for sub 12ftlbs airguns, FAC is another story)

 

I agree, there is no need to set you gun up to more than 11.5ftlbs with the pellets listed above, the difference will be minimal and the risks of having an illegal gun too high.

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi Stew.

 

Short answer 11.5 or less.

 

 

There is still such a lot of nonesense about "the higher the better" air rifle power. I'm in total agreement with Matt, Buster and Big Bald Beautiful. 10.8 to 11.3 is perfect for whatever calibre your rifle is. I recently headshot a few rabbits out to 45 metres with my TX200HC .177 with a spring that collapsed on the hunt and. I later found on the chrono, was only pumping out 7.6 ft/lbs average. The only thing that went on the downside was the accuracy suffered because of inconsistency in the air charge being delivered and I missed a few more.

 

Last night I headshot a small rabbit out to almost metres with my HW77 (witnessed by AndyFR1968) that's doing 11.4 ft/lbs. A pellet only needs 3 foot pounds to puncture a rabbit's skull and brain and humanely kill it. At 100 metres from 11.5 ft/lbs of airblast, your pellet still has more than enough retained energy to do the job. So an average 20 to 40 metres hunting range is no problem.

 

There really is no need to risk falling foul of the Law for a few unnecessary extra ounces of poke, that a single pellet found by the police labs going over 12ft/lbs can land you with a court appearance before an unsympathetic magistrate.

 

Simon

 

Simon, did you use a range finder in conjunction with mill dots to achieve such long distance kills?

 

Hi, Shepp.

 

In case Simon doesn't see your question, I can answer it.

 

What he's done is along certain parts of the permission is to place marker stones at five meter intervals. Measured not paced out. He's a bit wick with his Hawke's Mil Dot ret Personally I can't stand the bloody thing, give me a 30-30 any time!!

 

Cheers.

[shepp 2,285]

Nice one Andy,

Funny enough I was working out the mill dots on the outside range at my local club the other night.

I was hitting good groupings at sixty yards by the end of the evening.

[andyfr1968 772]

Nice one Andy,

Funny enough I was working out the mill dots on the outside range at my local club the other night.

I was hitting good groupings at sixty yards by the end of the evening.

 

It is worth stretching it out a little sometimes

 

It's quite rarely that I'll shoot much past 40ish meters in the field but if the conditions feel right, sometimes I'll go a little further.

 

We do practice out to some fairly long ranges, we were out today with a mate of mine (Paul, AKA theflashingblade) and the furthest targets were a measured meters, more for a challenge and a laugh as much as anything else but conditions were good and most got hit more often than not after we'd got our eyes in.

 

All good fun!!

 

Cheers.

Edited June 5, 2011 by andyfr1968