Submisive lurchers

[chilly 59]

Hi just wondering what your views are on this, I have 2 dogs one air dale terrier (non worker) and my lurcher pup , the air dale is great with other dogs but as soon as there is any signs of aggression from another dog she tucks her tail and runs for the hills even tho she is 28 tts and if it was the smallest dog imaginable, now I now my lurcher pup is still young at about 5 months but it seems she is going to be the same way as the air dale, she meets plenty of dogs and is good with all , but came across 2 russlles over field today they growled and chased her but didn't hurt her at all but she shit her self , I would rather them not be aggressive at all but don't like it when they get so scared and think their submission incur ages the aggressive behaviour from the other dogs.

 

My question is can this sort of temperament be detrimental to her future working ability ?

 

And is there any way to build her confidence in situations like this or will only time tell ?

[suffolkpoacher 219]

28tts 5 month did i read that correct if so think you need a new tape

[J.DOG 1,355]

You could find someone with a calm laid back dog and let your pup play and interact with it this could help build up the pups confidence and then try the pup with a more hyper dog gradualy building confidence it could work

atb mate good luck

Edited May 29, 2011 by J.DOG

[DottyDoo 500]

28tts 5 month did i read that correct if so think you need a new tape

 

 

read it properly next time, airedale is 28ats an his lurcher pup is 5 month old

[Bosun11 537]

The best two bitches i've owned were very submissive, one of 'em is in that avatar pic to your left. Line bred half cross bull, she was as timid as the day is long, to man & dog, but i never seen that bitch flicker no matter how much stick she was gettin, she relished it, loved it. Her nature made here effortless to own, a real joy. Wish she was still around.

 

[Chid 6,603]

my dog is very submisive with other dogs and runs away from the sister in laws yorkie but he still as it in him to tackle stuff with teeth ....

 

yours is still a pup and got a lot to learn about the doggy world

[chilly 59]

The air dale is 28tts she 6 years old , pup is about 18 tts

 

The pup meets loads of friends dogs all the time and is great with them and ruff play doesn't bother her at all it's as soon as there is aggression she is petrified

 

I met up with a chap of the forum last week he has a bull x about 25tts and the played constantly and pretty ruff play to biting and chasing each other and she was fine had a great time , just as soon as there is any aggression her tail tucks up , I big ridge of fur stands on end down her back and she is petrified , any one that had seen her with this bull x would think she is a vary confident dog but then it all goes right out the window Then if we come across any thing that is a little aggressive

[chilly 59]

That sets my mind at ease then , don't think is helps wit the air dale being the way she is think she is picking it up of her lol

[suffolkpoacher 219]

28tts 5 month did i read that correct if so think you need a new tape

 

 

read it properly next time, airedale is 28ats an his lurcher pup is 5 month old

sorry did not read it correctly,

[skycat 6,174]

At 5 months the pup is behaving normally for a pup. Instinct tells it not to behave aggressively round dogs which are older. No normal pup would react with aggression. But you don't want your pup to be scared either: just make sure not to put her in situations where a strange dog is acting aggressively towards her. You are the pack leader: it is your job to protect the young and vulnerable. If your other dog won't step up to that role (an Airedale scared of other dogs WTF? Maybe she was never socialised as a pup?) then you must be prepared to protect your pup from the kind of dog which might ruin her temperament.

 

If I see a dog approaching me when I'm out with a pup I put myself between the pup and the stranger. Normally my other dogs will form a barrier from behind which the pup peers out. Little by little the pup grows in confidence, meeting other calm dogs which aren't growling or behaving badly. It is important for pups to meet other dogs, but only in a controlled situation where you are calling the shots.

 

I also call out to the owner of an approaching dog and ask if its OK with other dogs. Most of the time round my way there aren't any daft idiots who would let an aggressive dog off the lead, but if I see one I'm not sure about I always protect the pup.

 

Don't let the pup get in the habit of running away either: put both dogs on leads when other dogs approach: that way if the strange loose dog kicks off you are in the right legally. Also, a strange dog is more likely to chase another dog if it is running away: the prey drive, chase fleeing animal thing kicks in. And if you have really aggressive dogs where you walk: go find somewhere else to walk! Or get a big stick!

[KenKeeping 13]

My Sal is a tease when it comes to other dogs.

He is now 12mnths old and 26"tts.

Whenever he sees another dog in the field, he bounders over to them, getting them to chase him around.

Keeps in front of them most of the time thankfully, lol.

But as soon as there is two dogs on the scene or more, he is very unsure, with his tail down and looking sheepish!

Spos its just his way.

I try and let him have his own space to decide for himself if he wants to sit or run.

[undisputed 1,664]

No it wont effect the dogs working ability

[chilly 59]

At 5 months the pup is behaving normally for a pup. Instinct tells it not to behave aggressively round dogs which are older. No normal pup would react with aggression. But you don't want your pup to be scared either: just make sure not to put her in situations where a strange dog is acting aggressively towards her. You are the pack leader: it is your job to protect the young and vulnerable. If your other dog won't step up to that role (an Airedale scared of other dogs WTF? Maybe she was never socialised as a pup?) then you must be prepared to protect your pup from the kind of dog which might ruin her temperament.

 

If I see a dog approaching me when I'm out with a pup I put myself between the pup and the stranger. Normally my other dogs will form a barrier from behind which the pup peers out. Little by little the pup grows in confidence, meeting other calm dogs which aren't growling or behaving badly. It is important for pups to meet other dogs, but only in a controlled situation where you are calling the shots.

 

I also call out to the owner of an approaching dog and ask if its OK with other dogs. Most of the time round my way there aren't any daft idiots who would let an aggressive dog off the lead, but if I see one I'm not sure about I always protect the pup.

 

Don't let the pup get in the habit of running away either: put both dogs on leads when other dogs approach: that way if the strange loose dog kicks off you are in the right legally. Also, a strange dog is more likely to chase another dog if it is running away: the prey drive, chase fleeing animal thing kicks in. And if you have really aggressive dogs where you walk: go find somewhere else to walk! Or get a big stick!

 

 

WTF indeed but the air dale has always been this way from a pup, always well socialised and never had any bad experiences as pup just the way she is and always has been lol. Up until today these are the first dogs I have come across since I got the pup that have done this , she was scared of my mates bordoe the first time she met it but that quickly went and they get along great , I make a big effort to socialise the pup and up until today everything has gone well, I don't think the Russell's were that nasty just doing the typical small terrier thing, and like you said she ran away from the dogs but came straight in to me for reassurance which I gave ,

 

I will have to be more careful infuser to prevent her getting in another situation like that until she is mature enough to deal with it

[skycat 6,174]

[boyo 1,398]

the best lurcher i have ever owned was also very submissive to any dog or bitch or person but was honestly a right demon on all quarry big or small and only had one gear fast foreward lol.the litter i bred of her were exactly the same timid around dogs but massive prey drive on all quarry .