fensaluki 35 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 IDEATION,THIS IS WHAT I POSTED NO NAME CALLIN NO PUTTIN DOGS DOWN OR BIGGIN DOGS UP,NOW GET OF YOUR SOAP BOX AND RAID YOUR PIGGY BANK while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely????? a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges, next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight, Fairplay mate. BUT YOU STILL HAVE NOT SAID WHY!!!!!! Despite being asked many times. What is your reasoning and logic that makes you think that EACH AND EVERY 'good and experianced dog' does not 'crash' a hedge, but stops and attempts to pluck the rabbit out without entering the hedge??? And the daytime thing, how many dogs could catch 3/4 good strong winter hares, given fair law, on big land, and catch each one in say less than 2 mins???? ok i take that as where friends again it was a thought i was havin while lamping to create a debate mate didnt say i was right or wrong just a thought, Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 IDEATION,THIS IS WHAT I POSTED NO NAME CALLIN NO PUTTIN DOGS DOWN OR BIGGIN DOGS UP,NOW GET OF YOUR SOAP BOX AND RAID YOUR PIGGY BANK while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely????? a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges, next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight, Fairplay mate. BUT YOU STILL HAVE NOT SAID WHY!!!!!! Despite being asked many times. What is your reasoning and logic that makes you think that EACH AND EVERY 'good and experianced dog' does not 'crash' a hedge, but stops and attempts to pluck the rabbit out without entering the hedge??? And the daytime thing, how many dogs could catch 3/4 good strong winter hares, given fair law, on big land, and catch each one in say less than 2 mins???? ok i take that as where friends again it was a thought i was havin while lamping to create a debate mate didnt say i was right or wrong just a thought, Aye mate, but i'm wanting to know WHY you think it? That's all. Rather than just a repetition over and over of the thought that popped into your head with no back up. It's not really a 'debate' if you just sit there repeating your original statement over and over. Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 ideation ive seen it over and over again with differant dogs from collie xs to non peds to bull xs, at the moment i run a few dogs of differant calibre and beleave me these dogs are determined but after a while they all stop crashing hedges, it was while watching the pups last night last week they where runin along the tops of em crashin them this week they started boxing rabbits of em and if the coney got to the hedge no crash just a steady stand back and wait, so mate just a thought thats all Quote Link to post
lazycunt 59 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) IDEATION,THIS IS WHAT I POSTED NO NAME CALLIN NO PUTTIN DOGS DOWN OR BIGGIN DOGS UP,NOW GET OF YOUR SOAP BOX AND RAID YOUR PIGGY BANK while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely????? a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges, next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight, if your dog puts the brakes on its because you hunt all year round. trees are in full bloom grass is three feet high along the hedge and in the hedge.your dogs have learnt when the rabbit hits the hedge the games over. a dog lamped in the winter and spring when theres no grass or cover will hit the hedge because it can still see the rabbit in the hedge . Edited May 29, 2011 by lazycunt Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 ideation ive seen it over and over again with differant dogs from collie xs to non peds to bull xs, at the moment i run a few dogs of differant calibre and beleave me these dogs are determined but after a while they all stop crashing hedges, it was while watching the pups last night last week they where runin along the tops of em crashin them this week they started boxing rabbits of em and if the coney got to the hedge no crash just a steady stand back and wait, so mate just a thought thats all See, that wasn't so hard, an explanation! You can't really deny then that some rabbits are lost that a 'hedge crasher' would have taken. Unless ALL of your rabbits just stop dead after making cover? Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 ideation ive seen it over and over again with differant dogs from collie xs to non peds to bull xs, at the moment i run a few dogs of differant calibre and beleave me these dogs are determined but after a while they all stop crashing hedges, it was while watching the pups last night last week they where runin along the tops of em crashin them this week they started boxing rabbits of em and if the coney got to the hedge no crash just a steady stand back and wait, so mate just a thought thats all See, that wasn't so hard, an explanation! You can't really deny then that some rabbits are lost that a 'hedge crasher' would have taken. Unless ALL of your rabbits just stop dead after making cover? but how long will that hedge crasher crash hedges for???????? Quote Link to post
fensaluki 35 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate So which comments am I wrong i mate???? I have lived and worked the fen all of my life with my dogs and there are pleanty that can vouch that I give my dogs on average 4 nights a week lamping through the season and thats without the day work..Not that this makes me an expert but please dont suggest that I dont know what I say. We are all entitled to our own opinions and methods of working our dogs but to an expeirianced dog man some of your comments shed light on your own inexperiance. ATB Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 ideation ive seen it over and over again with differant dogs from collie xs to non peds to bull xs, at the moment i run a few dogs of differant calibre and beleave me these dogs are determined but after a while they all stop crashing hedges, it was while watching the pups last night last week they where runin along the tops of em crashin them this week they started boxing rabbits of em and if the coney got to the hedge no crash just a steady stand back and wait, so mate just a thought thats all See, that wasn't so hard, an explanation! You can't really deny then that some rabbits are lost that a 'hedge crasher' would have taken. Unless ALL of your rabbits just stop dead after making cover? but how long will that hedge crasher crash hedges for???????? That is a totally separate question. You stated that dogs that were worked a lot DID NOT EVER crash hedges, and dogs that did, obviously didn't see enough action. NOT, That a dog that crashes hedges will end up injured more. The first is false, the second common sense. Yes, the dog is more likely to take damage, but how much is down to the individual dog and luck. Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate So which comments am I wrong i mate???? I have lived and worked the fen all of my life with my dogs and there are pleanty that can vouch that I give my dogs on average 4 nights a week lamping through the season and thats without the day work..Not that this makes me an expert but please dont suggest that I dont know what I say. We are all entitled to our own opinions and methods of working our dogs but to an expeirianced dog man some of your comments shed light on your own inexperiance. ATB you said a dog givin a hare fair law cant get to terms with that hare in under 2 mins iam not trying to come cross as a no all but you are so wrong and pre the ban as wellplus i said under 4 minutes and if my dogs took that long to come to terms with em on the fens i wouldnt keep em just my oppinion and yes i know the fens like you do, Edited May 29, 2011 by cheeseboard Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate So which comments am I wrong i mate???? I have lived and worked the fen all of my life with my dogs and there are pleanty that can vouch that I give my dogs on average 4 nights a week lamping through the season and thats without the day work..Not that this makes me an expert but please dont suggest that I dont know what I say. We are all entitled to our own opinions and methods of working our dogs but to an expeirianced dog man some of your comments shed light on your own inexperiance. ATB you said a dog givin a hare fair law cant get to terms with that hare in under 2 mins iam not trying to come cross as a no all but you are so wrong and pre the ban as well your on the wind up pal Quote Link to post
cheeseboard 2 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate So which comments am I wrong i mate???? I have lived and worked the fen all of my life with my dogs and there are pleanty that can vouch that I give my dogs on average 4 nights a week lamping through the season and thats without the day work..Not that this makes me an expert but please dont suggest that I dont know what I say. We are all entitled to our own opinions and methods of working our dogs but to an expeirianced dog man some of your comments shed light on your own inexperiance. ATB you said a dog givin a hare fair law cant get to terms with that hare in under 2 mins iam not trying to come cross as a no all but you are so wrong and pre the ban as well your on the wind up pal NO WAY JUST A THOUGHT WHILE LAMPING Quote Link to post
fensaluki 35 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 shocking first read this post and to be honest it got my gander up a little but after readig it all the way through it is quite obvious that this chap is either one of those.... done bugger all but wishes he had type of guys or is on day release over the long weekend and the black van and men in white coats will be taking back tommorow afteroon. fen land, January hares , correct law given to said hare and his dogs still kill them in under a minute, If you have a dog capable of doing this why are you risking its long term career on milky does and boulder rabbits running the groud conditions we have at the moment. And if you do the work that you say you do then you will surely know that 75% off rabbits killed by dogs at night are taken on the edge of the field,headge or ditch that your dog has just jacked at. And I wish i had a pleantyfull supply of your rabbits that once hit cover under the lamp just wait a few seconds and then jump out into the jaws of a waiting sight hound. have a little self pride chap.....surley you can see your making your self sound silly ? ATB ok i 1st will say neither of the comments about day release or the men in coats apply to me but you are so wrong in all your comments for sure i suggest you go back to the text bookand read abit more on a plummer novel mate So which comments am I wrong i mate???? I have lived and worked the fen all of my life with my dogs and there are pleanty that can vouch that I give my dogs on average 4 nights a week lamping through the season and thats without the day work..Not that this makes me an expert but please dont suggest that I dont know what I say. We are all entitled to our own opinions and methods of working our dogs but to an expeirianced dog man some of your comments shed light on your own inexperiance. ATB you said a dog givin a hare fair law cant get to terms with that hare in under 2 mins iam not trying to come cross as a no all but you are so wrong and pre the ban as wellplus i said under 4 minutes and if my dogs took that long to come to terms with em on the fens i wouldnt keep em just my oppinion and yes i know the fens like you do, No i didn't...... I beleive i commented on a January hare being given fair law being killed in under a minute. Atb Quote Link to post
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