questions for the more experianced lurcher folk amoung us,

[riohog 5,701]

all the dogs here have stamina and a ot at it but i will elaborate on what iam trying to say,

 

IF ANY TOOK 4 MINUTES TO CATCH HARES BEFORE THE BAN I WOULDNT OF HAD THE STOCK I HAVE NOW WHICH ARE QUIET CAPABLE OF RUNING 4 MINUTES,

to be honest pal i dont think you know what you are talking about your just digging a hole!!

[skycat 6,173]

seen and owned both types over the years but like as been said the best can catch them both in the feild and in/on the hedges as for the long runs 4min plus if your running on the fens and giving fair law or head start it takes even the best dogs a while to get their quarry under some sort of control ..after running 200 yds plus to just get to their hare.the said same dogs can and will catch them much quicker in smaller places with not so much start or fair law .unless you have run dogs on the real big land its very difficult to comprehend just how differant and difficult for the dogs it is .and by this i dont mean its easier to catch hares anywhere else its just a totally differant running ground to anywhere else.

 

Good point Boyo: and how many people actually know what fair law is????????? There was a competition at a show one year where people had to look at a number of markers on the field. They varied from between 20 to 150 yards in distance from the person doing the guessing. The idea was to judge yards distance (the original distance usually classed as fair law when coursing) 90% of the people who took part, and most of them were coursing men, said that between 30 and 40 yards was yards

 

It takes a hare a few yards to get into its stride, so kick ups are far more likely to result in a quick catch. For kick ups, also read hunted up hares where the dog has found the hare itself, whether or not the hare jumped at 3 yards or 10 yards. Let that same hare get a real distance ( to 100 yards) before slipping the dog and the difference is very marked. The dog has to expend so much more energy just getting to the hare, which by then also has had time to decide what route its going to take, where its heading for in terms of safety (wood, cover crop etc) A hare which knows where its going and isn't panicked or panicking is an awesome creature indeed.

[fazza123 516]

Just a small point but lamping in near as June ????? No wonder your dogs are catching quick !

[cheeseboard 2]

all the dogs here have stamina and a ot at it but i will elaborate on what iam trying to say,

 

IF ANY TOOK 4 MINUTES TO CATCH HARES BEFORE THE BAN I WOULDNT OF HAD THE STOCK I HAVE NOW WHICH ARE QUIET CAPABLE OF RUNING 4 MINUTES,

to be honest pal i dont think you know what you are talking about your just digging a hole!!

lol well ithink i do

[bostonboy 27]

while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking

 

people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely?????

a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges,

 

next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them

 

just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight,

I do not think your dogs would need to run 4 min plus,pregnant game can't run for that long

[cheeseboard 2]

while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking

 

people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely?????

a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges,

 

next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them

 

just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight,

I do not think your dogs would need to run 4 min plus,pregnant game can't run for that long

lol,dont worry about rabbits and pups just keep it to your expeiance.......if any,

[Stanleigh 135]

Are you sure you,v got any experience ? you sound like a 16 yr old lad to me . tick tock tick tock

[stewie 3,387]

Are you sure you,v got any experience ? you sound like a 16 yr old lad to me . tick tock tick tock

:laugh:

[lofti 579]

ive got two lurchers one crashes through hedges one dosnt

the one that dose catches far more game.

[Stanleigh 135]

congratulations cheesy lad , you did it .

[Simoman 110]

while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking

 

people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely?????

a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges,

 

next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them

 

just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight,

 

 

To be honest i dont think you need bags of experience to answer those questions, what exactly do you mean by hedge crashing? To me its a dog that doesn't pull up at a hedge and let quarry escape. and as for you getting rid of a 4 minute hare dog, that just shows you have no knowledge of the fens and the strains of dog that have been purpose bred to run fen hares. I do know what your saying about finding it more interesting seeing a balls out 60 second course, i feel the same bit i could also appreciate the lurchers that could wear the hare down on the big land and do it several times a day. 99% of the up and at em eyes on storks dogs aren't that successful at catching fen hares, otherwise they would all run whippet/greyhounds............

[cheeseboard 2]

congratulations cheesy lad , you did it .

what do you know do you ever walk out with the lamp and dogs

[cheeseboard 2]

while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking

 

people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely?????

a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges,

 

next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them

 

just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight,

 

 

To be honest i dont think you need bags of experience to answer those questions, what exactly do you mean by hedge crashing? To me its a dog that doesn't pull up at a hedge and let quarry escape. and as for you getting rid of a 4 minute hare dog, that just shows you have no knowledge of the fens and the strains of dog that have been purpose bred to run fen hares. I do know what your saying about finding it more interesting seeing a balls out 60 second course, i feel the same bit i could also appreciate the lurchers that could wear the hare down on the big land and do it several times a day. 99% of the up and at em eyes on storks dogs aren't that successful at catching fen hares, otherwise they would all run whippet/greyhounds............

hedge crahing is described on this forum lots of times by people lamping saying the dog is no good if it doesnt crash hedges,

to me that shows inexperiance and lack of lamping because any dog that lamps reguler and catches good numbers,DOES NOT CRASH INTO HEDGES, and to the 4 minute thing all my dogs will run for that period but i would be disapointed if it took that long to catch the hare preban summer or winter,

 

as i did think of a third thing while lamping last night about comments on here,

 

which is,

you all go on about summer hunting hares rabbits in summer as the game isnt at its best,well what about the dog usually there not at there best ever both are usually at 70% of there full fitness so just makes it as fair as winter huntin in my view

[Stanleigh 135]

Lamping ? I don,t just do it in half term son , thers a certain loudmouth down in Cornwall who,ll tell you I took money off him in a match.

[Simoman 110]

while lamping tonight i was watching my dogs and thinking

 

people go on about dog crashing hedges and in the same breath they go on about how good there dog is and how much its caught,this cant all be true in the same sentance surely?????

a dog that crashes hedges cant of caught serious amounts of game surely and it cant of been out night after night as good experianced dogs dont crash hedges,

 

next thought was about daytime why would any one rave about a 4 plus minute dog on the fens if my dogs took that long i would get rid of them

 

just a couple of thoughts while bunny bashing tonight,

 

 

To be honest i dont think you need bags of experience to answer those questions, what exactly do you mean by hedge crashing? To me its a dog that doesn't pull up at a hedge and let quarry escape. and as for you getting rid of a 4 minute hare dog, that just shows you have no knowledge of the fens and the strains of dog that have been purpose bred to run fen hares. I do know what your saying about finding it more interesting seeing a balls out 60 second course, i feel the same bit i could also appreciate the lurchers that could wear the hare down on the big land and do it several times a day. 99% of the up and at em eyes on storks dogs aren't that successful at catching fen hares, otherwise they would all run whippet/greyhounds............

hedge crahing is described on this forum lots of times by people lamping saying the dog is no good if it doesnt crash hedges,

to me that shows inexperiance and lack of lamping because any dog that lamps reguler and catches good numbers,DOES NOT CRASH INTO HEDGES, and to the 4 minute thing all my dogs will run for that period but i would be disapointed if it took that long to catch the hare preban summer or winter,

 

as i did think of a third thing while lamping last night about comments on here,

 

which is,

you all go on about summer hunting hares rabbits in summer as the game isnt at its best,well what about the dog usually there not at there best ever both are usually at 70% of there full fitness so just makes it as fair as winter huntin in my view

 

Mmmm, i think we shall agree to disagree on that one. and to be honest your argument to back up summer hunting is poor, ill informed and screams out not only inexperience but also a saddening lack of respect........