gameness, hardness and prey drive

[Ideation 8,216]

Just for the record the dictionary defines 'gameness' and 'game' as -"having a fighting spirit; plucky."

[jambay5 191]

well you said on all (3) describe my last 1/4 bull 3/4 grey(tenacity).He would grab any where , never let it go but took alot of stick .you knew if caught you it was going no where, but in some ways pity he didnt try to kill out right.! I wonder if my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey pup will be or would have been pre ban .? the same

this was him in the 80s Bruce

 

your lucky your 3/8 5/8 has a good role model to follow and learn from

[Casso 1,261]

i notice alot of people use what i feel is the wrong word, e.g when people say an untried, unstarted pup is game. so im putting what i feel is the definition of them.

 

Prey drive - the want to catch someth, for example crashing a hedge to make a catch

 

Gameness - knowing that the fox is going to bite them but still catching it

 

Hardness - inflicting damage to a fox and take more damage then required e.g some bull crosses catch and just hold the same place having extensive damage done to then rather then quickly changing hold or shaking

 

 

all dogs have drive to some degree, its the want in our dogs to make contact with something,,but all dog do not have the same drive intensity , some dogs will be shocked out of drive with the bite of a fox, some will see it as a positive and respond accordingly,,its that varying degree of intensity of drive is what makes dogs hard or not, its all the one drive but different dogs have different levels, like an elevator in a tall building some dogs will go ,right to the top and enjoy the ride and see everything as positive and some will bale out on the 2 floor , because its all getting to much,,

[MOO 730]

Don't mistake a dog that can smash something half its weight as game.

 

I would imagine if you said to somebody who matched dogs in the pit "my lurcher is game" you'd be laughed at.

I would be very surprised if any lurchers in this country were given the oppertunity to proove they were game I think this word is wrongly used all too often when describeing lurchers .....

Earth dogs can be game .....but gameness cannot be described it can only be seen

[Guest dances]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

[Ideation 8,216]

Don't mistake a dog that can smash something half its weight as game.

 

I would imagine if you said to somebody who matched dogs in the pit "my lurcher is game" you'd be laughed at.

I would be very surprised if any lurchers in this country were given the oppertunity to proove they were game I think this word is wrongly used all too often when describeing lurchers .....

Earth dogs can be game .....but gameness cannot be described it can only be seen

 

 

If gameness is having a 'fighting spirit', especially in the face of difficult odds.

 

Could a lurcher not be game??? Depending on the situation you put it in? I would say it could.

 

Obviously not as 'game' as a pitbull or other fighting breed, but still game. Perhaps 'game' in comparison to other running dogs.

 

For example i would say a small beddy x, who threw itself into a fox, fearless to the stick it was going to take, was pretty game, more game than a big 90lb bullx who did the same.

 

If that makes sense.

[fat man 4,741]

Have to agree with johney.boy,a lurcher that kills fox's even consistainly is not what i would call game.Just look at the size and weight difference whereas when 2 dogs were pitted to fight they were matched to within a couple of lb and the same with game fowl they are matched to within a couple of ounces of each other,and they will fight to the finish.I know all that was many year ago now,but they were both bred for gameness alone and nothing else.The lurcher is the same as a greyhound,bred to chase and catch but are very seldom over matched usualy the oppisite.

[DottyDoo 500]

Don't mistake a dog that can smash something half its weight as game.

 

I would imagine if you said to somebody who matched dogs in the pit "my lurcher is game" you'd be laughed at.

I would be very surprised if any lurchers in this country were given the oppertunity to proove they were game I think this word is wrongly used all too often when describeing lurchers .....

Earth dogs can be game .....but gameness cannot be described it can only be seen

 

 

id be willing to bet there is lurchers out there that are given the oppurtunity to prove themselves GAME.....

 

wether or not many prove it, is another matter

[johnny boy68 11,726]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

[cheeseboard 2]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

:doh:

OH NO NOT A WHOLE NNNNNNINETEEN

[DottyDoo 500]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

:doh:

OH NO NOT A WHOLE NNNNNNINETEEN

 

 

so what if the lad is 19, i know 19 year ole drivers that are better than guys that been driving for donkeys years

 

 

an i also know for a FACT that the young guy is oot more than most the pretenders on here........

[johnny boy68 11,726]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

:doh:

OH NO NOT A WHOLE NNNNNNINETEEN

 

 

so what if the lad is 19, i know 19 year ole drivers that are better than guys that been driving for donkeys years

 

 

an i also know for a FACT that the young guy is oot more than most the pretenders on here........

Not arguing the FACT he's out a lot Dotty just like to know the young fella's take on a game dog!

[stabba 10,745]

Prey Drive.....an overwhelming desire to persue/hunt chosen quarry

Harness....the ability to keep taking stick even to the point of exhaustion

Gameness...imo not to be used a term except in the presence of bull dogs or game fowl

just my opinion on it folks

[DottyDoo 500]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

:doh:

OH NO NOT A WHOLE NNNNNNINETEEN

 

 

so what if the lad is 19, i know 19 year ole drivers that are better than guys that been driving for donkeys years

 

 

an i also know for a FACT that the young guy is oot more than most the pretenders on here........

Not arguing the FACT he's out a lot Dotty just like to know the young fella's take on a game dog!

 

 

well i for 1 would take the youngster views an points before a lot a the older members of this forum

 

 

if we are gonna use the awready defined defonition of game, then i was always told that only 2 creatures are game, an thats the cocks an the bulls.........

 

but with a lot of lurchers out there now an in the past which are made up of sometimes as much as 50%bull

 

a lot a people use the term game diffrently to the older guys that were once in other circles

[Ideation 8,216]

no but then who judges gameness? because iv seen what i would call game

And in your 19 years of being on this earth please tell us whats game mean to you then?

 

 

 

f**k that Johnny, and dog that can take a tiger deserves respect in my eyes