Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I ate a chocolate doughnut today . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Tomm Parr 30 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 If you want to lose weight I'd stop eating protein shakes and don't go near the weights other than dumbbells and press-ups. Doing weights defeats the object of wanting to lose weight, as it uses proteins to build muscle and increase weight. The easiest way to lose weight is to run, run, run and run some more. If your legs are gone due to age, a rowing machine is great. Remember your body uses two things for energy: Sugars/Carbs stored in muscles as Glycogen (used for quick release of energy); Fats stored under the skin and around organs (used for slow release of energy). If you run for long enough that your arms and legs feel like you've been doing weights all day, then it means your body has run out of stored sugars. Only once the sugars have been used up, does the body seriously start to burn fats instead. The problem is that most folk stop training when they get tired and puffing, before they've used up all the sugars, meaning hardly any fats ever get burned by their body. Whatever you do though, don't join the binbag brigade: Its ok for boxers shifting water to make the weight in a few hours but a bad idea for losing 'real' weight (fat, in this case). Just my opinion though, I know different things work for different folk. I've been involved with boxing all my life and used to be a Biology teacher so this is my method. The science above ain't exact but its a bog standard explanation! Hope it helps though. Not to pick holes in your thoughts mate....but the trouble with using ONLY cardio for weight loss is that most overweight people will run out of puff long before they run out of strength ( arms and legs as you call it ).....in other words their heart muscle is the first muscle to tire. Using weights can certainly aid weight loss....low weight high reps for toning,heavy weight low reps for building,as im sure you know .....i know what your saying about boxers,must say over my lifetime though ive found boxing folk actually have far less understanding of general fitness than many other sports. I didn't say never do weights, I said avoid heavy ones if you want to lose weight/burn fat because they do neither. Don't get me wrong, weights are great for building muscle, but that increases weight. Thats why i suggested dumbbells or pressups (the equivalent of light bench presses). You are right about the heart muscle tiring first, that's what i meant about folk stopping too early, when their chest hurts, before their body has even started to burn any fat. Its a shame because so many folk nowadays want to lose weight and burn fat but don't really understand how and when their body does it. Most boxers i've known are the fittest blokes you'd ever meet (apart from marathon runners or triathlon men!). Seriously though, i know what you mean, I have seem some great technical trainers who have no clue whatsoever about fitness. Anyway, i think we are singing the same tune here about fitness and losing weight, albeit using different lyrics.... So what was your take on DeGale-Groves? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I ate a chocolate doughnut today . just the one lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I ate a chocolate doughnut today . just the one lol Please don't make this harder than it already is lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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.terrier man. 193 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don't eat shit and walk the dogs many miles on rough terrain everyday. Works for me agree with you there fella, try having four terriers pulling you a good few miles im like one of them f*****g wogs who do that race walking bollaks when i walk down the street Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave1372 83 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Half a stone if four weeks is real good going ! .....remember that it isn't all about actual weight loss as you body shape will also be changing and you have toned up some muscle which weighs more than fat. Don't cut out too much protein as it is protein that stops you feeling hungry.....if you still feel hungry then it could be a sign you are not getting enough protein. As most people have said it is about a change in lifestyle for the long term. To help with weight loss initally then try cutting back on carbs, if you cut back to about 60 grams a day then your bodys own fat burning mechanism willl kick in and start helping burn the carbs that are stored as fat on the body. The only downside to this is that it is carbs which help maintain energy levels and it can make you feel a bit weak so you maybe would only cut back on the days you don't excercise. Good luck fella. Edited May 26, 2011 by dave1372 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,475 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for all the replies people Didn't think i'd get such a good response, i know it's mainly down to what i eat whih is why i have been controlling it. I thought protein made the body work harder as in protein is harder for the body to break down and make use of?? And i do walk my dogs alot, im out with them in the morning for an hour before work and then again for about 2 hours after work, when i have a day off work we're out for a minimum of 4 hours mooching about. I am mentally weak lol but im working on it! Im far from lazy to, i love haveing something to do, it was when i got bored that id want to munch on something and since i gave up smoking i ate more. I read somewhere also that if you were overweight as a youngster then it's harder to stay trim as an adult, is this true? When you say a mooch about with the dogs do you just have a stroll in the countryside or a good hike at a fast pace? If your wanting a good workout you can come and walk these two mad feckers of mine round the estate here where everyones got a cat and the dogs will set your pace for you. Seriously though a gentle stroll about is not much use for trying to burn anything off. As for the two minute workout find a lad who's been on vodka redbulls all night and ride him like seabiscuit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 If you can skip properly then skip, It's a great fat burner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don't eat shit and walk the dogs many miles on rough terrain everyday. Works for me agree with you there fella, try having four terriers pulling you a good few miles im like one of them f*****g wogs who do that race walking bollaks when i walk down the street :laugh: :laugh: Spat my tea out then mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) I didn't say never do weights, I said avoid heavy ones if you want to lose weight/burn fat because they do neither. Don't get me wrong, weights are great for building muscle, but that increases weight. Thats why i suggested dumbbells or pressups (the equivalent of light bench presses). You are right about the heart muscle tiring first, that's what i meant about folk stopping too early, when their chest hurts, before their body has even started to burn any fat. Its a shame because so many folk nowadays want to lose weight and burn fat but don't really understand how and when their body does it. Most boxers i've known are the fittest blokes you'd ever meet (apart from marathon runners or triathlon men!). Seriously though, i know what you mean, I have seem some great technical trainers who have no clue whatsoever about fitness. Anyway, i think we are singing the same tune here about fitness and losing weight, albeit using different lyrics.... So what was your take on DeGale-Groves? Thing is though bench press is predominantly a chest/tricep exercise and most women will struggle to do 1 correct press up as they are just not particularly strong in them areas so its near impossible for them to gain any fitness that way. What you say about boxers is a myth....i boxed for many years at a decent level,it took me to become a bodybuilder years later to really get an understanding of the body.A boxer peaks his body for 1 day ( his fight ) and cannot hold that condition all year round.Everything is geared for that 1 day and timing is everything,hitting that peak....thats not true day to day fitness. Degale/Groves was quite a surprise for me i thought Degale nicked it even though he fought the wrong fight,but wouldnt argue when its that close Edited May 26, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I didn't say never do weights, I said avoid heavy ones if you want to lose weight/burn fat because they do neither. Don't get me wrong, weights are great for building muscle, but that increases weight. Thats why i suggested dumbbells or pressups (the equivalent of light bench presses). You are right about the heart muscle tiring first, that's what i meant about folk stopping too early, when their chest hurts, before their body has even started to burn any fat. Its a shame because so many folk nowadays want to lose weight and burn fat but don't really understand how and when their body does it. Most boxers i've known are the fittest blokes you'd ever meet (apart from marathon runners or triathlon men!). Seriously though, i know what you mean, I have seem some great technical trainers who have no clue whatsoever about fitness. Anyway, i think we are singing the same tune here about fitness and losing weight, albeit using different lyrics.... So what was your take on DeGale-Groves? Thing is though bench press is predominantly a chest/tricep exercise and most women will struggle to do 1 correct press up as they are just not particularly strong in them areas so its near impossible for them to gain any fitness that way. What you say about boxers is a myth....i boxed for many years at a decent level,it took me to become a bodybuilder years later to really get an understanding of the body.A boxer peaks his body for 1 day ( his fight ) and cannot hold that condition all year round.Everything is geared for that 1 day and timing is everything,hitting that peak....thats not true day to day fitness. Degale/Groves was quite a surprise for me i thought Degale nicked it even though he fought the wrong fight,but wouldnt argue when its that close i can asure you amature boxers at the clubs i know take fittnes very seriously the misconseption of they train for one night is not true gnash some open class lads will box at short notice and need to keep their fitness levels at a constant level all though as you know you can not peak on a peak , target training is more of a pro thing , most people drift in and out of training and over do it, three times a week building up the sessions and all round circuts should be the aim of any one new to training with a healthy diet , WARM UP WARM DOWN AND STRECH fitness is a long jorney , go to a gym and get some one to coach you collie there are great deals at most health clubs at the mo one with a pool would be better and most of all enjoy it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,475 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 If you can skip properly then skip, It's a great fat burner. Aye skip breakfast and tea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomm Parr 30 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I didn't say never do weights, I said avoid heavy ones if you want to lose weight/burn fat because they do neither. Don't get me wrong, weights are great for building muscle, but that increases weight. Thats why i suggested dumbbells or pressups (the equivalent of light bench presses). You are right about the heart muscle tiring first, that's what i meant about folk stopping too early, when their chest hurts, before their body has even started to burn any fat. Its a shame because so many folk nowadays want to lose weight and burn fat but don't really understand how and when their body does it. Most boxers i've known are the fittest blokes you'd ever meet (apart from marathon runners or triathlon men!). Seriously though, i know what you mean, I have seem some great technical trainers who have no clue whatsoever about fitness. Anyway, i think we are singing the same tune here about fitness and losing weight, albeit using different lyrics.... So what was your take on DeGale-Groves? Thing is though bench press is predominantly a chest/tricep exercise and most women will struggle to do 1 correct press up as they are just not particularly strong in them areas so its near impossible for them to gain any fitness that way. What you say about boxers is a myth....i boxed for many years at a decent level,it took me to become a bodybuilder years later to really get an understanding of the body.A boxer peaks his body for 1 day ( his fight ) and cannot hold that condition all year round.Everything is geared for that 1 day and timing is everything,hitting that peak....thats not true day to day fitness. Degale/Groves was quite a surprise for me i thought Degale nicked it even though he fought the wrong fight,but wouldnt argue when its that close I boxed for a few years too, as an amateur, not as a pro . Most of the amateur lads i knew kept their weights almost level through the year so their fitness was maintained daily. I'm pretty sure that was down to our trainer, an old school stickler and can't speak for any other clubs. Mind you 'peaking for one day' did occur and tended to be with heavyweights or blokes 25y plus. I know 'peaking for a day' is the name of the game for pros mind you, that's a totally different ballgame . Were you am or pro? I had it as a draw by the way, i'd have them do it again next year if Degale is mandatory then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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