idea for snaring foxes

[ferreterjohn 0]

i was wondering if it is legal to set a snare for foxes round your larsen trap, i was lamping rabbits in the field where my larsen was set with a call bird in and i had a vixen just constantly running round the larsen up close to the trap. if i set a snare there and attached it to the larsen would this be legal.... i know it might be classed as a drag snare which are illegal but if i made sure the trap could not be moved would it be a legally set snare.

[Holdaway 2]

That would be no different to snaring around a release pen, but don't attach the snare to the larson it will be ripped apart even if it is made of mesh.

 

Stake the snare properly.

 

H

[Rolfe 2]

It would be simplicity itself to set the wire using a ground anchor or stake.........my concern would be for the Larsen trap and the call bird contained within it. A snared fox would demolish the Larsen in a very short space of time, would it be practicable to surround the Larsen with sheep netting set out from the trap by a few stakes and leave a staggered entry point in which you could set the wire?. I have seen this done with with great success surrounding a small chicken coop.

[john b 38]

Hold your horses a minute or two. Snaring round a chicken coop is very different to snaring round a captive decoy bird.

 

 

I know that the General Licences allow magpies to be used a decoys, but that's only for trapping birds on that licence. I think that setting a snare round a larsen could be argued to show an expectation that the fox would be attracted to the decoy bird - effectively using it as a decoy in contravention with the legislation below.

 

I might be wrong, but I think you shouldn't just rush in.

 

 

 

 

Wildlife and Countryside Act, Part 1, section 11 (1).

 

11 Prohibition of certain methods of killing or taking wild animals.E+W

 

(1) Subject to theprovisions of this Part, if any person—

 

(a) sets in positionany self-locking snare which is of such a nature and so placed as to becalculated to cause bodily injury to any wild animal coming into contacttherewith;

 

(b ) uses for thepurpose of killing or taking any wild animal any self-locking snare, whether ornot of such a nature or so placed as aforesaid, any bow or cross-bow or anyexplosive other than ammunition for a firearm; .

 

(c ) uses as a decoy, for the purpose of killing or taking any wild animal, any live mammal or bird whatever, or

 

(d) knowingly causesor permits to be done an act which is mentioned in the foregoing provisions ofthis section,

 

he shall be guilty of an offence.

[Rolfe 2]

John b Has made a very good point..........But it could also be argued that as you have a "Duty of Care" to any animal or bird that is under your control (by Law)........That you were protecting the bird from a potential attack by a predator. Bit of a chicken and egg scenario to be honest. I would maintain if you had a large enough fenced off area around the call bird you would do be seen to be protecting the captive bird rather than using it as a decoy for the fox. Both sides could be argued till the cows come home and i expect it falls into one of those Grey areas of pest control.

[john b 38]

John b Has made a very good point..........But it could also be argued that as you have a "Duty of Care" to any animal or bird that is under your control (by Law)........That you were protecting the bird from a potential attack by a predator. Bit of a chicken and egg scenario to be honest.

 

I agree - although I could see someone arguing that fencing round the Larsen and/or raising it off the ground would fulfil the 'duty of care'.

 

 

For me the concern is that 'killing or taking' would be clearly intended.

[IanB 0]

Snare away from the larsen, check fencelines and existing trails the foxes will use either man made or from other animals that are clearly visible...also look around the field for undefined trails with the grass offset slightly, they have created.

[ferreterjohn 0]

unfortunately IanB there is no proper runs that they come in from, it is in a back of someones garden, and the grass i mowed regular so impossible to see the runs and they come and go as they please it is in a rural area, but i think this fox is half urban/rural fox, and doesn't follow any particular runs, but i may be wrong.

[heart of wales 19]

Leave it a while You wont have to worry,this bugger got in with mine in a matter of minutes,had caught loads of Magpies there in the past never a fox.

[IanB 0]

unfortunately IanB there is no proper runs that they come in from, it is in a back of someones garden, and the grass i mowed regular so impossible to see the runs and they come and go as they please it is in a rural area, but i think this fox is half urban/rural fox, and doesn't follow any particular runs, but i may be wrong.

 

Any photos of the garden, it must have some form of boundry...Or use another bait to entice it where you want and snare it...

 

Or even easier, if your lamping rabbits in tha garden and it has easy access...have a stake out with the gun..

[JohnGalway 1,043]

What the hell are you lot making Larsens out of, papier mache