Ian Tomlinson

[PeakOil 352]

A good decision hopefully he will be found guilty and have to do a good stretch inside. The Police are supposed to enforce and uphold the law, not make it up as they go along then try and brush it under the carpet.

[mackem 26,492]

Lets see what happens........

Harwood had faced two misconduct hearings in the late 1990s and in 2004. The first arose out of a road-rage incident while he was on sick leave with a shoulder injury, during which he reportedly tried to arrest the other driver, who complained that Harwood had used unnecessary force. Before the case was heard, Harwood retired from the Met on medical grounds and was awarded a pension. Three days later, he rejoined the Met as a civilian computer worker. Several years later, he applied to join the Surrey Police as an officer; Surrey Police say he was vetted and was frank about his history. During his time in Surrey, there was a complaint about his behaviour while on duty

 

 

A Scotland Yard officer has denied killing newspaper seller Ian Tomlinson at the G20 protests when he appeared in court charged with manslaughter.

 

Mr Tomlinson, a homeless 47-year-old, collapsed and died on the fringes of demonstrations in central London on April 1 2009.

 

Pc Simon Harwood, a father of two, showed no emotion as he stood in the dock at Southwark Crown Court in south London to enter his "not guilty" plea.

 

Relatives of Mr Tomlinson gasped from the public gallery as Harwood, 40, denied the allegation against him.

 

Harwood, who appeared in the dock wearing a dark suit, white shirt and tie, spoke clearly and confidently to confirm his name before he was told: "You are charged on this indictment with manslaughter, that on April 1 2009, you unlawfully killed Ian Tomlinson. How do you plead: guilty or not guilty?"

 

He answered boldly: "My Lord, not guilty."

 

Mr Tomlinson's wife Julia wiped tears from her eyes, while his stepson Paul King hung his head and muttered "No". Harwood's wife Helen showed no emotion during the 20-minute hearing.

 

The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) charged the officer over Mr Tomlinson's death after reviewing an inquest jury's unlawful killing verdict.

 

DPP Keir Starmer QC previously said new medical evidence at the inquest and the opinions of experts during the hearing helped change his mind over launching proceedings.

 

http://news.aol.co.uk/main-news/story/g20-pc-denies-killing-ian-tomlinson/1948936/

[tegater 789]

the police are not above the law,I wouldnt get away with what he did and im not claiming to be protect the public.

 

he should be dealt with harsher than if it was any member of the public.

I think you will find they are members of the public!

[gnasher16 30,121]

A good decision hopefully he will be found guilty and have to do a good stretch inside. The Police are supposed to enforce and uphold the law, not make it up as they go along then try and brush it under the carpet.

 

Try telling that to the families of the 96 people killed at Hillsborough......in a week when the House of commons has eventually been pushed into that debate it strikes me as ironic that 1 policeman has been brought to task for his actions resulting in the death of 1 person in a demonstration/riot......when the actions of hundreds of police officers has been brushed under the carpet for over 20 years in the deaths of 96 people at a football match ....unbelievable !

[fellman 116]

[WILF 46,817]

 

 

Mr Tomlinson, a homeless 47-year-old, collapsed and died on the fringes of demonstrations in central London on April 1 2009.

 

Pc Simon Harwood, a father of two, showed no emotion as he stood in the dock at Southwark Crown Court in south London to enter his "not guilty" plea.

 

Relatives of Mr Tomlinson gasped from the public gallery as Harwood, 40, denied the allegation against him.

 

 

 

Mr Tomlinson's wife Julia wiped tears from her eyes, while his stepson Paul King hung his head and muttered "No". Harwood's wife Helen showed no emotion during the 20-minute hearing.

 

 

 

So they all cared for him so much, that he was homeless!!......the wife and stepson are doing the greiving relative bit cause they can see a nice few quid in compo at the end of it all.

 

Meanwhile, a father of two who has to deal with shitbags day in, day out has the baying mob wanting his head on a stick........no wonder this country is f****d!

[WILF 46,817]

hopefully he will be found guilty and have to do a good stretch inside.

 

Hopefully there will be justice, which is a very different thing to what your saying

[mackem 26,492]

a father of two who has to deal with shitbags day in, day out has the baying mob wanting his head on a stick

He sounds quite angelic,not at all like a road-rage driven individual with anger related issues.

 

So they all cared for him so much, that he was homeless

Lived in a hostel,probably not his fault,peoples circumstances change sometimes for the worse over the course of a lifetime,this isnt about a wifes compo claim,its about the incident.

[WILF 46,817]

"Tomlinson was born to Jim and Ann Tomlinson in Matlock, Derbyshire, moving to London when he was 17 to work as a scaffolder or roofer. At the time of his death, he was working casually as a vendor for the Evening Standard. Married twice with nine children, including stepchildren—five girls and four boys, aged 15 to 32 at the time of his death—he had a history of alcoholism, as a result of which he had been living apart from his second wife, Julia, for 13 years, and had experienced long periods of homelessness. He had been staying since October 2008 in the Lindsey Hotel, a shelter for the homeless on Lindsey Street, EC1."

 

Yeah, this dude sounds like someone we should all aspire to!!.......if it wasnt for this incident, folk would call him exactly what he was which was another f*****g waster.

 

I remember seeing the footage at the time and anyone who has been around can see he is a pisshead making a menace of himself when a small amount of officers are trying to control a baying mob!

If you were just walking around London as a private person and this dude approached you, most people would f**k him out the road never mind in a situation like that.

 

Its just an oppertunity to have a go at those we pay to put in the frontline and deal with this shite imho and given the choice, I would rather have an officer who is a family man walking the streets and looking out for me than another f*****g hostel dwelling, stella supping oxygen theif.

 

Maybe its me thats mad!

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

I agree with you WILF, but then I am just an old fasicst

[mackem 26,492]

Maybe its me thats mad!

I havent got any emoticons wilf so I cant smile at that.Your a bit grumpy this morning.I do think Harwood is just another bully-boy in a uniform,and I really do hope justice is served.

[graham4877 1,181]

their was no need to push the man like that, i hope the c**t gets a long bit of jail!

[Leeview 791]

"Tomlinson was born to Jim and Ann Tomlinson in Matlock, Derbyshire, moving to London when he was 17 to work as a scaffolder or roofer. At the time of his death, he was working casually as a vendor for the Evening Standard. Married twice with nine children, including stepchildren—five girls and four boys, aged 15 to 32 at the time of his death—he had a history of alcoholism, as a result of which he had been living apart from his second wife, Julia, for 13 years, and had experienced long periods of homelessness. He had been staying since October 2008 in the Lindsey Hotel, a shelter for the homeless on Lindsey Street, EC1."

 

Yeah, this dude sounds like someone we should all aspire to!!.......if it wasnt for this incident, folk would call him exactly what he was which was another f*****g waster.

 

I remember seeing the footage at the time and anyone who has been around can see he is a pisshead making a menace of himself when a small amount of officers are trying to control a baying mob!

If you were just walking around London as a private person and this dude approached you, most people would f**k him out the road never mind in a situation like that.

 

Its just an oppertunity to have a go at those we pay to put in the frontline and deal with this shite imho and given the choice, I would rather have an officer who is a family man walking the streets and looking out for me than another f*****g hostel dwelling, stella supping oxygen theif.

 

Maybe its me thats mad!

 

thats all vey well quoting Ian Tomlinsons past Wilf but the officer did nt know that and he could of been anybody on the street that day IMHO

Y.I.S Leeview

[gnasher16 30,121]

Its nothing really to do with what type of character the man was it makes no odds.....i have no reason to be a fan of plod but i accept they have a tough job and we as untrained everyday society grant the police a certain amount of authority to make judgement on situations we arent trained for......with that we have to accept they wont always get it right,we cant start sending them off to prison everytime they get it wrong........

I suppose it could be said if you dont get yourself into sticky situations you dont have any dealings with them.......if you do then you have to accept they are just human beings as well.

[mackem 26,492]

we cant start sending them off to prison everytime they get it wrong

In the past couple of years cops have been prosecuted for murder,rape,multiple-rape,child-grooming,pedophilia,theft,drug-dealing,fraud,assault,theft,the whole gamut of crimes,they make the krays look like card-carrying members of the good-citizen club,I understand what your saying gnasher,but week-in,week-out cops are prosecuted in this country for crimes,thats fact and just the way it is,the days of old when a uniform demanded respect are long gone,just watch any of the cop shows on TV to see the guys who really serve us nowadays,they are human,no better than you nor I,equally as fallible.

Harwood resigned from the force over a previous anger-related issue then joined as a civvy worker 3 days later,he isnt an angel,justice should be served.