audley harrison KO

[dickyboy 1]

Not heavyweight but top class british fighter ....calazaghe(spell) Now he is a fighter

 

Audley's not got the kill in him, like a dog you can be good on paper but if it ain't in you to keep going when your body screams no then you ain't going far.....thats all tyson had , anger, aggression call it what you like but he was like a pitbull, no technical skill so a good fighter could unwind him but but he did keep going when it got tough!!!

[MickC 1,825]

speaking of the truth coming out in boxing and fighters quitting did anyone ever see the fights between JC CHAVEZ and FRANKIE RANDALL.

I can vaguely remember them.Didnt Randall beat him then in the rematch they gave a stoppage win to Chavez.

thats the one chavez wouldn't fight on because he had a cut even though the doc said it was ok,fight had gone over three rounds so it went to scorecards chavez won,f*****g disgrace he quit and still won.

Thats right.It was the first time Chavez had been beat and they robbed Randall to give Chavez the win.He lost a lot of respect after that fight with his mexican fans.Im sure Randall was still boxing a couple of years back.I remember reading about one of his fights.He unfortunately ended up a journeyman.

[Guest ragumup]

Tyson was a great fighter he had a good defence weaving jabs and stright punchers and bobbing hooks he was very quick for a heavyweight and punched soildly from a firm footing, its interesting to note that douglas was beating tony tucker when he was knocked out buy him in their WBC fight before tyson beat tucker on point so it show douglas was no bum. also it shows how good tyson was because how could someone so short with a short reach beat men much taller and bigger than him he held all three belts at the same time, at that time. but tyson did desgrace himself with holyfield

[bill88 6]

Tyson was a great fighter he had a good defence weaving jabs and stright punchers and bobbing hooks he was very quick for a heavyweight and punched soildly from a firm footing, its interesting to note that douglas was beating tony tucker when he was knocked out buy him in their WBC fight before tyson beat tucker on point so it show douglas was no bum. also it shows how good tyson was because how could someone so short with a short reach beat men much taller and bigger than him he held all three belts at the same time, at that time. but tyson did desgrace himself with holyfield

Totally agree with your comment's mate.If Tyson was such a bum and easily picked apart by technical fighter's,why were they all avoiding him,untill the lifestyle got the better of him.From Berbick untill the Given's fiasco started he was awesome.Spink's had beaten Holme's,and yet when he fought Tyson he was waiting for the punch to put him down.I think Tyson is a washed up bum now,but in his early day's he was the best.Why would cus d'amato waste his time if he had nothin.

Edited February 18, 2007 by bill88

[MickC 1,825]

Larry Holmes said before he fought Tyson, that Tyson would end up a sob and its come true alright.Tyson incidentally chinned him in the 4th round.Evander for what its worth could only beat him on points.I rated Tyson in his day but to be honest his split from Rooney,the Givens fiasco and then the time he served in jail and ultimately his lifestyle worked aginst him.A good enough amateur to have USA olympic trials,the youngest heavyweight world champion,undisputed world champion(fought for every belt)and numerous world tile fights.If thats a bum I would like to see the real thing !

 

ps It was Greg Page who chinned Tyson in sparring

and Aaron Snowell was Tysons trainer for the Douglas fight not Rooney.

Edited February 18, 2007 by MickC

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 16, 2008 by oneredtrim

[bill88 6]

Tyson was a great fighter he had a good defence weaving jabs and stright punchers and bobbing hooks he was very quick for a heavyweight and punched soildly from a firm footing, its interesting to note that douglas was beating tony tucker when he was knocked out buy him in their WBC fight before tyson beat tucker on point so it show douglas was no bum. also it shows how good tyson was because how could someone so short with a short reach beat men much taller and bigger than him he held all three belts at the same time, at that time. but tyson did desgrace himself with holyfield

 

Tucker never K.O'd Douglas, Douglas simply turned his back on the ropes and the ref interjected whereupon Douglas intimated that he wanted out. Because Douglas had done this before in his career (yet shown exceptional technical ability) promoters were fighting shy of him, he was seen to be an easy bet for Tyson (incidentally Tucker broke his hand in the second round of the fight with Tyson/right hand). He (Douglas) opened up at 45-1 the day the Tyson fight was announced, his (Douglas) mother died, his sister accidentally shot herself in a bizarre farmyard accident whilst cleaning a rifle and his wife declared she wanted out of him....all within a 14 week period of the fight....Douglas to his credit said he would take it and booked a ringside seat for his fourteen yr old son to watch his daddy take apart the baddest man on the planet (it's safe to presume he had the hump). Trump slapped half a mill on Douglas when the news broke he would be coming in at 16'4....single handedly bringing the odds down to 22-1, Dan Duva (Lou's brother) not to be outwitted chucked 50k($) at Douglas also and the odds were now 16-1....fight night you were struggling to kop for 8's but still i had a tickle big enough for three weeks in the Canaries (it's lovely around Easter/Cheers Mikey).

Never had money on Douglas with the bookies,but i took a twenty bet with my brother after seeing Douglas's face (no sign of intimidation).

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 16, 2008 by oneredtrim

[jpnixon 7]

if ye want to see a good fighter on the up watch out for John Duddy

[gnasher16 30,186]

Nobody said tyson was a bum ! but what he certainly wasnt was an all time great !..and if being short makes him a better fighter then what does that make joe frazier who fought in one of the strongest generations the divisions ever seen.

 

Yes tyson was the best for the few years he was at the top,but a fighter can only be judged by the opponents he fights...and tyson fought very mediocre opponents while at the top,his "superfight"with michael spinks was a media joke...spinks had puffed up to 205 having beaten a washed up and finished larry holmes in very debatable fashion...a very limited gerry cooney...and a virtual unheard of steffan tangstad...these were the fights that led up to his fight with tyson...superfight my arse !

 

As for douglas,he had his own problems before the tyson fight,had he lost would he have used them as excuses for years to come.Tysons bubbles burst as soon as he met higher class opposition,he also proved he was a cur in the ring when things didnt go his way...many people dont like this because they got dragged along with the media sensationalism and thought he was the great they portrayed him to be,when in reality..as has been said before,some of us could see what he really was very early on in his career and knew the right opponent would expose him for what he was.

Had he been around 10/15 years earlier than what he was its very doubtful he would ever have won a world title at all !

[Guest JDF]

regarding tysons sparring partners,Glen McCrory was able to handle him in sparring

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL GNASHER ,

 

ANYONE WHO COUNTS OUT A PUNCHER IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE .........

TYSON HAD THE FIRE POWER TO WIN AGAINST ANY HEAVYWEIGHT .......... WHEN HE WAS ON TOP OF HIS GAME

 

TYSON AS A FEW OTHER FIGHTERS WAS FAST BECOMING A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND ...... ANYONE WHO BERATES THE ROLE OF A GOOD HANDLER / TRAINER AND MANAGEMENT TEAM ARE RIGHTING OFF THE WINNING PERCENTAGE IN A CLOSE FIGHT,

AS A KID I SAT AND LISTENED TO THE OLD FELLA HAVE THE CRAIC WITH REFS AND TRAINERS , THE LIKES OF BRENDAN INGLE PHONED REGULAR ,........ THEY MOULDED FIGHTERS LIKE A POTTER AT THE WHEEL WITH A LUMP OF CLAY ........ BUT WITHOUT THE POTTER THE FIGHTER BECAME SHAPELESS ......

 

 

ALL THE BEST

 

 

DUCKWING

[gnasher16 30,186]

duckwing.

 

Fair comment mate,and it sounds like we had similar upbringings only in my case it was terry lawless..most of the time listening to him while my old fella was falling off his stool in the thatched house leytonstone(when his gym was above)...lets face it if someone can take frank bruno to world title contention the rold they play cant be underestimated!!!

 

Agree with what you say to a point...and of course any/every fighter has a punchers chance,and if you have a great punch you have a better chance....but as you know theres a lot more to a fighter than a punch...also,regardless of the team behind him...the man still proved a cur in the ring and this would have been exposed no matter how hard he punched or who trained him.

 

Good fighter during a very weak era,yes.....all time great,absolutely no way !...he had a heartwarming story/background that got him a lot of support,also his fighting style was appealing...but..he just wasnt what many people thought he was...simple as that !....all the best.

Edited February 20, 2007 by gnasher16

[gnasher16 30,186]

wote we have two rember is tysons heart was taken away when cus died no one two be his rock and a dog& man with no heart will quit your mind some were eles

 

 

 

If that was the case why didnt he quit on bonecrusher smith? tucker? etc etc they took him the distance..in fact why didnt he quit on anyone?? ...i tell you why..because he wasnt getting hurt thats why !!

d,amato died before tyson even won a title,it didnt stop him bashing up nobodies did it,he just happened to quit when he was getting hurt ??

 

Same as dogs mate...nature is nature and you cant put in what god didnt ! he was born a cur same as others were born game, dont make excuses for him...He was either a fighter in his heart or he wasnt,and he wasnt...some would say he was a bully who couldnt take what he gave out,i wouldnt i would just say he wasnt an honest born fighter.

Edited February 20, 2007 by gnasher16

[Cleanspade 3,322]

i like amir khan hes a cracking little boxer