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[david2363 42]

Gnasher

 

Tyson was unbeatable in his day, For a haevyweight of 5 foot 11" tall to rule the division the way he did was simply unbelievable.

I had the priveledge to see him batter Julius Francis in Manchester and his power had to be seen to be believed.

In the end he was beaten by his lifestyle, and not any individual boxer.

[Guest JDF]

i know hindsights a wonderful thing but i had a feeling as far back as the bonecrusher smith fight that all wasn't what it seemed with tyson.

[MickC 1,825]

Once Don King got his hands on Tyson that was the start of the end for him.It might have been a different story had he stopped with Kevin Rooney.He was started off in the boxing game with Cus,and had 15 fights before Cus died(Kevin Rooney was also with him for a few of these fights),Rooney then took over and he was awesome,once Don King got Tyson to chase Rooney away and get a different trainer that was when he started to decline.It was the same for Naz when he thought he didnt need Brendan Ingle anymore.No matter how good a fighter, they all still need a good corner to go back to when there game plan isnt going to well.Tyson wasnt a cur imo,he had 6 losses and all were either ko or tko losses with 1 disqualification.It is a well known fact in his later years he wasnt fighting for any other reason than to pay the taxman,thats why he never bothered to train.The night he kod Spinks,the sort of shape and condition he was in he would have kod any of the so called greats.Like has already been pointed out he beat himself.

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 16, 2008 by oneredtrim

[Guest JDF]

well put oneredtrim,the thing with tyson was he never had a fighters heart and HE knew it,i think he tried to change this in the way he took his lumps from lewis but as sharpe as he was the night he fought spinks he was never in the class of some of the greats.

[MickC 1,825]

He was off the rails in Tokyo.He was drinking and partying,wasnt training seriously and also got kod off a sparring partner a week before the fight,and lets not forget he kod Douglas but got the benefit of a dodgy long count.As soon as Tyson went down the ref counted straight away and the rest is history.

[Guest JDF]

well the first thing a real fighter will do is train,and to be fair i doubt two counts would have helped tyson recover to fight on once douglas had finished him.

[lone wolf 0]

he's just a big useless tatty

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 16, 2008 by oneredtrim

[MickC 1,825]

Well Mick...i suppose it would be easy to waste a few hours on here chatting around the heavyweight scene but if you read whats been said by the folk around Tyson in that early stage of his career then you will understand how the machinations of these matters work to allow somebody who could not box grab the limelight in such a manner. The threat of being rumbled was felt strongest by Jacobs, even after Atlas had screamed he was a f****n nonce/bully shitehouse c**t, there was so much money invested in the pantomine that Atlas had to go and Tyson would become heavy weight champion by hook or by crook. The pressure of holding it all together ultimately killed Jacobs.

I agree with what your saying he had very good marketing and he came along when the heavyweight seen was flat like it is now.

[hairyface 211]

When he got off the plane at Heathrow he shouted ......AMIR.

 

 

 

fecking classic mate

[gnasher16 30,186]

The sad fact is...the only people who could ever believe that Tyson was anything special,is naive people who know and understand very little about the game....anybody who has ever studied the history of the noble art or who have been between the ropes or even seen enough to know...will know that Tyson was the biggest fraud ever to lace a glove !...he was around at a time when the quality of heavyweight boxing was at its absolute lowest,accept possibly for now !...his most impressive wins were michael spinks,a pumped up light heavyweight who lost before he entered the ring....carl williams...who shouldnt have been stopped after 1 flash knockdown...and frank bruno....(say no more!)

 

The only TRUE tests tyson ever had....he lost...plain and simple....douglas started the roll...little old danny williams finished it....the biggest 2 fights of his life,against the best quality opponent he ever fought(Holyfield) he was beaten easily..the 2nd time quitting cold ( biting an ear off )

 

As for the excuses he made in the douglas fight...he was spot on for that fight weightwise,kevin rooney later said he was in as good nick as he was for any other fight....what was his excuse when he quit on holyfield and all but quit on lewis? his shoes were too tight ??? like i said...the truth always comes out in boxing.

 

Oneredtrim you speak the truth....but i have to say,had he stayed with teddy atlas and kevin rooney he would have been a much better fighter...still not good enough ...but they would have got the best from him,and dont forget it was d,amato that outed atlas rather than offend king mike !...just shows,even those great old timers made mistakes.

 

All time great heavyweight ? LOL..he doesnt make the top 15 for me.

Edited February 18, 2007 by gnasher16

[Guest JDF]

speaking of the truth coming out in boxing and fighters quitting did anyone ever see the fights between JC CHAVEZ and FRANKIE RANDALL.

[MickC 1,825]

speaking of the truth coming out in boxing and fighters quitting did anyone ever see the fights between JC CHAVEZ and FRANKIE RANDALL.

I can vaguely remember them.Didnt Randall beat him then in the rematch they gave a stoppage win to Chavez.

[Guest JDF]

speaking of the truth coming out in boxing and fighters quitting did anyone ever see the fights between JC CHAVEZ and FRANKIE RANDALL.

I can vaguely remember them.Didnt Randall beat him then in the rematch they gave a stoppage win to Chavez.

thats the one chavez wouldn't fight on because he had a cut even though the doc said it was ok,fight had gone over three rounds so it went to scorecards chavez won,f*****g disgrace he quit and still won.