Reviving the Border Terrier

[Hammo 42]

theres good and bad in every breed you get what you pay for some levi oakes strain borders wont win a show but they all work

hiya mark , are your borders out of Levi's stuff ? And where abouts in the uk are you mate . Cheers hammo .

[chugger461 3]

In my eyes yes borders can be slow to enter but if a dog is going to work it will if terriermen are willing to work longer and put there time behind a dog surely thats the nature of the sport and love of the game making your line into what U need of it, who says you cant introduce show lines to brooden its genetics like I said if it will work it will cull the rest, surely there are enough people on here with worrking borders to create a form of working border rather than say its f****d altogether move with the times!!

[johnny 777 53]

I don't think the problem lies with these intelligent creatures, I have a border bitch kc reg out of ornberg lines bought her for ratting bushing etc... I could not be more pleased with her. Yes I think it would be ideal to put worker to worker but don't under estimate kc reg dogs. The problem lies with the lack of effort, time and patients of owners. John.

[fordson 33]

well i am a few month short of fiifty years old allways worked terriers as did my father,following hunts or just out digging you didnt see many borders, years ago i tried one and it was a good finder but it struggled to finnish a fox which was hard to understand as he was a strong dog,others i have seen have had faults some were allright but i never seen a good un and lads who have been among terrier all there lives and are now in there late seventys will tell you they have never seen a good border, if most people were more honest about there terriers you would no that the border was finished years ago.some might be allright but a good terrier is hard to come by in any breed.

[cammy12 176]

I don't think the problem lies with these intelligent creatures, I have a border bitch kc reg out of ornberg lines bought her for ratting bushing etc... I could not be more pleased with her. Yes I think it would be ideal to put worker to worker but don't under estimate kc reg dogs. The problem lies with the lack of effort, time and patients of owners. John.

kc reg is the biggest rip off about, who checks what lines are what? who checks the breeder didnt lie on the application? this kc reg pish reely gets on my goat if the dog is going to work its in the feild you will find out if any good or not, not reading its unreliable anncestory. theres an excellent article in edrd about it more refering to teckels thow but the principle is the same.

[The Breeder 156]

 

well i am a few month short of fiifty years old allways worked terriers as did my father,following hunts or just out digging you didnt see many borders, years ago i tried one and it was a good finder but it struggled to finnish a fox which was hard to understand as he was a strong dog,others i have seen have had faults some were allright but i never seen a good un and lads who have been among terrier all there lives and are now in there late seventys will tell you they have never seen a good border, if most people were more honest about there terriers you would no that the border was finished years ago.some might be allright but a good terrier is hard to come by in any breed.

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[fordson 33]

i have seen some very good border cross fell terrier and years ago a bedlington border which was good,i was talking of pure borders,are yours good finders and capable of dispatching a fox,or do they bay a bit.im not slaging borders as i would like to think there was some out there,the oxcrot strain is the most popular in my area and i think they look to small and light to do good they would be pushed about i think.

[The Breeder 156]

 

i have seen some very good border cross fell terrier and years ago a bedlington border which was good,i was talking of pure borders,are yours good finders and capable of dispatching a fox,or do they bay a bit.im not slaging borders as i would like to think there was some out there,the oxcrot strain is the most popular in my area and i think they look to small and light to do good they would be pushed about i think.

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[johnny 777 53]

theres good and bad in every breed you get what you pay for some levi oakes strain borders wont win a show but they all work

hiya mark , are your borders out of Levi's stuff ? And where abouts in the uk are you mate . Cheers hammo .

 

. Hammo or anybody else wanting to use a Levi oaks dog. A lady called Betty judge has a Levi oaks dog in her kennel plushcourt) that has been worked in the passed. just thought it was worth a mention.

[CorkyJohn 808]

Johnny777 I'm not an expert on borders, I've owned & worked one who was good bolting dog but not a digging dog & not worthy of breeding from. My point being my opinion is just that, an opinion based on limited experience thats why I wouldnt argue with experience unless I knew for a fact it was bullshit. You however, continue to spout nothing but bullshit....based on bullshit

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

ive seen a few dogs and bitches from oxcroft lines work below ground-supprisingly hard dogs in fairness.could finish a fox no problem some borders can do what you want them to do and more.seen it with my own eyes atb

[Birchdown 38]

fordson.....I've worked a couple of Oxcroft over the last few years and i've got a young 'un at the mo. They may be small as you say but but they didn't get pushed about. A tad on the hard side i'd say. And as bobby blackheart says...they'll do what ya want 'em to do, and more.

[obi2 239]

My oldest is Oxcroft and would have a dozen just like her. Done everything iv asked of her. Got her half brother aswell. Be 2 on April but seems to be comIng along very slow.

[fordson 33]

well after reading this thread it looks like there is no need to revive the border,but i would have to see some of these working borders working before i was tempted to own one.