tripletree 75 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Interesting this the newcolour canary we have had for some yrs the red siskin gave us this bird type and good many types and variants have evolved from them fertile hybrid on the f1.atb bunnys. Don't know much abut birds but always thought that canary crosses were called mules. Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 be careful what you say every one he is a mod on the site under the name of "simoman" :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 hybrids mules same thing still a cross bre d donkeys cross horses are also mules but they cant fly .ha ha ,sisken the red hooded that begot the start of the new colour canaries are from venezuela ,normal canary mules say goldie etc are in fertile the fi hybrid red sisken fertile a gloster cross roller for instance his termed f1 because of the dif type ,but fertile .atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
tripletree 75 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Interesting this the newcolour canary we have had for some yrs the red siskin gave us this bird type and good many types and variants have evolved from them fertile hybrid on the f1.atb bunnys. Just looked it up female ligers Tigons are fertile but males aren't so females can be bred back to pure tiger or lion is this the same with canaries ? Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 this his similiar it was found that some of the ofspring were fertile and the rest his history a new type has evolved with genes mutating we have new colours being recognised each yr, nature at its best because we also see the variants in the dif species of finches enabling fanciers to produce colour variant mules hybrid etc, silvers cinamons pieds lutinos clears can be seen in most of the ueropean finches ,breeding birds enables the study of genes for colour etc on a much larger and faster turn around ,pigeons were the forerunner some yrs ago when fanciers started to spot slight dif in some and started to double up on these ,we began to get dif fancy pigeons powters etc. atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) this his similiar it was found that some of the ofspring were fertile and the rest his history a new type has evolved with genes mutating we have new colours being recognised each yr, nature at its best because we also see the variants in the dif species of finches enabling fanciers to produce colour variant mules hybrid etc, silvers cinamons pieds lutinos clears can be seen in most of the ueropean finches ,breeding birds enables the study of genes for colour etc on a much larger and faster turn around ,pigeons were the forerunner some yrs ago when fanciers started to spot slight dif in some and started to double up on these ,we began to get dif fancy pigeons powters etc. atb bunnys. this has nothing to do with terry turkington :thumbdown: Edited May 21, 2011 by lurcher1 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 dont know him bud couldint put a face ta the name ,but then again i could have met in the past atb bunnys Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 dont know him bud couldint put a face ta the name ,but then again i could have met in the past atb bunnys once you meet terry turkington you never forget him mate the mans a legend Quote Link to post
uno 62 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 theres allways a long line of people who want to see there name in the cmw,over the last few months its had some of the most pointless articles iv seen for a long time,the whole paper needs a revamp, as for turkey legs,he did what all theses people do gave his own opinion. 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 hybrid vigour interesting one this ,wellmy thoughts on this are one gets vigour by outcrossing to different lines of the same breed,there does not have to be a cross of dif types . scatter breeding keeps size strength and usually malladies away ,just my thoughts and beleifs .breeding stock of any type weather pure or cross breds of dif types vigour can be got by outcrossing to dif lines of the said breed .atb bunnys. If inbreeding increases homozygosity, crossbreeding is its opposite and maximises heterozygosity. Crossbreeding is the mainstay of most farm animal and plant production - it takes advantage of a phenomenon which is widely talked about but poorly understood: HYBRID VIGOUR (or for the geneticists - HETEROSIS) is the term used to describe the burst of fertility, good health and growth that is seen in the progeny when two unrelated breeds are mated. The longer that these breeds have been separated, and the greater the differences between them, the stronger will be the resulting hybrid vigour. note . two unrelated breeds!!! but they have to be the same genus you can cross a horse and donkey ,you cant x a horse and cow!!! you been busy on google .. and whats wrong with that! its there to be used as reference . .. do you know better. or just capable of one line coments, why bother if your making no contribution to the thread . Quote Link to post
hellyer189 93 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 At the end of a day you breed the dog for a purporse if the dog fits the bill and does what it's supposed to then it's the right tool for the job Quote Link to post
CorkyJohn 808 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Do yourselves a favour & keep your money in your pocket. The CMW has been a pile of shit for years now due to the idiots they have writing articles for them. It shows the mentality of whoever pays the clowns who submit articles for publication. Plummer may be long dead but there was plenty trying to fill his boots. Repetitive bullshit...... one of the regular authors is on here so I'm informed & she's full of it 2 Quote Link to post
Mars 42 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Seems to me that this Turkington fella has done his job as a writer for a magazine He has put across "His Opinion" and started a debate on a related forum, so in one sense has exceeded his remit...!!!! Mars.. Quote Link to post
vld 62 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Seems to me that this Turkington fella has done his job as a writer for a magazine He has put across "His Opinion" and started a debate on a related forum, so in one sense has exceeded his remit...!!!! Mars.. I think its a worry when people can publish their opinions without evidence to substantiate them. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 As a regular reader of the old SN, and have started buying the CW again, it really does need a revamp, what are the admin thinking of, it needs a new Editor and the whole Mag sorted out, I would start my making it monthly, you need a good run of articles like Lloyd on Lurchers and some top terriers Lads I would do away with the silly readers photos, and try and get the Readers letters going. Quote Link to post
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