hancock pup

[coney clucky 93]

Here we go again, another Hancock thread, if you are turning out the amount of pups as these breeders are doing, the law of averages, you will breed decent stock, and also some mediocre,

But they would not be breeding if there was no demand, I myself prefer worker to worker, but that's just my opinion.

The plus things I can see with Hancock dogs, is you get what it says in the tin, and pups are always available.

as far as im aware hancock gets lot of feed back from owners on the performance of the dogs he breeds good and bad and told me if to many bad things come from the breeding of certain dogs he gets rid of that line and he always excepts that sometimes he gets it wrong but dont we all it does no breeder of dogs for working to knock out constant crap as is livlihood soon down the pan but we all have diffrent views on his dogs and good or bad he been turning them out some years now so must be selling more good than bad

[Catcher 1 639]

This Topic must come up about three times a month.Never met the guy or seen his kennels.But iam begining to feel i know him personally. :laugh:

[lazycunt 59]

wish I had a crystal ball that could predict every pup from a kennel was going to be great just because the owner put the time in will it still be great if it has behaviour problems or yapps its tits off chasing a bunny or applys the abs on a winter big rabbit. whos fault will it be then? by your theory it must be the owner's if its the man behind the dog that makes the dog and nothing else. right?

i bought one of them sows ears an it didnt have a behaviour problem or yapp both as a pup or working. got what i ask for a well reared pup door to door very helpful and its coat was like silk no compliants stick a pic up off yours lets see what ur moaning about money well spent

Edited May 20, 2011 by lazycunt

[danw 1,748]

a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for.

 

 

Nice prediction now for a fact I don,t care if his pup turns out to shit gold I still won't buy from a puppy farm

[Ideation 8,216]

What a stupid f*****g thread.

[Ideation 8,216]

Main motivators for visiting Hancocks for a puppy -

 

- Don't know many folk in the dog game, or any with any decent collie lurchers.

 

- Don't trust people in the dog game and assume you will be sold a load of lies about what is in a pup.

 

- Want one right now, "pups always available".

 

- Read too many Plummer books.

 

- Seen your mates that was great.

 

 

Before anyone says it, i go out with hancock dogs, my hunting partner has had several, and the dam of my intended next pup is of 'hancock breeding'.

 

 

But lets face it, he is a puppy farmer, breeding off unworked animals who spend all their lives stuck in pens churning out pups at the highest rate possible for cash.

 

Does that really sit well with you?

 

Not knocking what comes out of Hancocks, with that many being bred there will be good, bad and average. But lets face it, we are talking collie based lurchers, they are probably one of the few breeds when pretty much ANY dog will make a half decent rabbit dog at least.

 

So aye, you can take the simple route, get over the puppy farm thing and go straight to the man and get your pup, or you can spend what is in reality only a small bit more time and effort, and go and get a pup of EXACTLY the same breeding from a working background, where you can see the parents graft and get to know the breeder and their dogs.

 

After all, if there are all these great Hancock dogs out there, why not take a pup off one of them? Hancock breeding, but actually worked????

 

Just don't get it, i suppose people like the easy option.

[paulsmithy83 567]

toby i have found over the years most failures in running dogs are down to the owner if purchased as a young pup.there are exceptions to this as in everything but mostly its the owners fault not socialising or doing enough with it and giving up to early with it.i bred a litter of first x of my greyhound bitch who hadnt worked but was a cracking track dog all the litter are flying bar one who was locked in a pen not taken out or socialised and didnt know how to run i bought it back and gave it to a mate for nothing he spends every hour of the day with it this pup although way behind the rest of the litter .is now chasing jumping and living life to the full.

Yes good dog men can do better justice to dog and I'm a strong believer in that, but no disrespect coming from the greyhound game which is mainly based on blood I would of thought you would have a different view. I'm yet to meet a greyhound trainer or owner not wanting the best blood, would you own a greyhound off parents that have never raced. In greyhounds blood means everything otherwise why the stupid prices for studs and good broods with great form. As said no disrespect meant, alot of good dogs cone from Hancock but also alot of bad but you would expect that with the amount they breed. But realistically what are the odds that your on to a good un ? Odds I wouldn't want to bet on

Edited May 20, 2011 by paulsmithy83

[paulsmithy83 567]

Main motivators for visiting Hancocks for a puppy -

 

- Don't know many folk in the dog game, or any with any decent collie lurchers.

 

- Don't trust people in the dog game and assume you will be sold a load of lies about what is in a pup.

 

- Want one right now, "pups always available".

 

- Read too many Plummer books.

 

- Seen your mates that was great.

 

 

Before anyone says it, i go out with hancock dogs, my hunting partner has had several, and the dam of my intended next pup is of 'hancock breeding'.

 

 

But lets face it, he is a puppy farmer, breeding off unworked animals who spend all their lives stuck in pens churning out pups at the highest rate possible for cash.

 

Does that really sit well with you?

 

Not knocking what comes out of Hancocks, with that many being bred there will be good, bad and average. But lets face it, we are talking collie based lurchers, they are probably one of the few breeds when pretty much ANY dog will make a half decent rabbit dog at least.

 

So aye, you can take the simple route, get over the puppy farm thing and go straight to the man and get your pup, or you can spend what is in reality only a small bit more time and effort, and go and get a pup of EXACTLY the same breeding from a working background, where you can see the parents graft and get to know the breeder and their dogs.

 

After all, if there are all these great Hancock dogs out there, why not take a pup off one of them? Hancock breeding, but actually worked????

 

Just don't get it, i suppose people like the easy option.

Think you've summed it up perfect there fella, good post

[Catcher 1 639]

Main motivators for visiting Hancocks for a puppy -

 

- Don't know many folk in the dog game, or any with any decent collie lurchers.

 

- Don't trust people in the dog game and assume you will be sold a load of lies about what is in a pup.

 

- Want one right now, "pups always available".

 

- Read too many Plummer books.

 

- Seen your mates that was great.

 

 

Before anyone says it, i go out with hancock dogs, my hunting partner has had several, and the dam of my intended next pup is of 'hancock breeding'.

 

 

But lets face it, he is a puppy farmer, breeding off unworked animals who spend all their lives stuck in pens churning out pups at the highest rate possible for cash.

 

Does that really sit well with you?

 

Not knocking what comes out of Hancocks, with that many being bred there will be good, bad and average. But lets face it, we are talking collie based lurchers, they are probably one of the few breeds when pretty much ANY dog will make a half decent rabbit dog at least.

 

So aye, you can take the simple route, get over the puppy farm thing and go straight to the man and get your pup, or you can spend what is in reality only a small bit more time and effort, and go and get a pup of EXACTLY the same breeding from a working background, where you can see the parents graft and get to know the breeder and their dogs.

 

After all, if there are all these great Hancock dogs out there, why not take a pup off one of them? Hancock breeding, but actually worked????

 

Just don't get it, i suppose people like the easy option.

 

 

Years ago tryed to read.Diary of a hunter by plummer.Ended up f*****g it in the bin.A true load a crap.The man was talking about a guy with a blow pipe.Think Brian was puffing it. Never read another hunting book after that..

[WILF 47,171]

a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for.

 

So f*****g what!!, shame on your mate for encouraging c**ts like handcock.

[lazycunt 59]

Main motivators for visiting Hancocks for a puppy -

 

- Don't know many folk in the dog game, or any with any decent collie lurchers.

 

- Don't trust people in the dog game and assume you will be sold a load of lies about what is in a pup.

 

- Want one right now, "pups always available".

 

- Read too many Plummer books.

 

- Seen your mates that was great.

 

 

Before anyone says it, i go out with hancock dogs, my hunting partner has had several, and the dam of my intended next pup is of 'hancock breeding'.

 

 

But lets face it, he is a puppy farmer, breeding off unworked animals who spend all their lives stuck in pens churning out pups at the highest rate possible for cash.

 

Does that really sit well with you?

 

Not knocking what comes out of Hancocks, with that many being bred there will be good, bad and average. But lets face it, we are talking collie based lurchers, they are probably one of the few breeds when pretty much ANY dog will make a half decent rabbit dog at least.

 

So aye, you can take the simple route, get over the puppy farm thing and go straight to the man and get your pup, or you can spend what is in reality only a small bit more time and effort, and go and get a pup of EXACTLY the same breeding from a working background, where you can see the parents graft and get to know the breeder and their dogs.

 

After all, if there are all these great Hancock dogs out there, why not take a pup off one of them? Hancock breeding, but actually worked????

 

Just don't get it, i suppose people like the easy option.

 

 

Years ago tryed to read.Diary of a hunter by plummer.Ended up f*****g it in the bin.A true load a crap.The man was talking about a guy with a blow pipe.Think Brian was puffing it. Never read another hunting book after that..

the man was a genius

[iceman001979 1,316]

a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for.

What a load off balls just because you give the pup everything it needs and bring it up the way a lucher should it is going to be a good one :toast:

Wish we all could take any pup and turn them into world beaters but guess what does not work like that.

Seen two Handcock pups brought up the same way one turned out ok the other is in a hole.

WHY its because the way there bread as simple as that if you breed form worker to worker you get dirt in every litter but better chance getting a good one. But if you breed from non worker to worker guess what you get worse results.

[Country Joe 1,411]

But lets face it, he is a puppy farmer, breeding off unworked animals who spend all their lives stuck in pens churning out pups at the highest rate possible for cash.

I agree with ideation, especially with the above, The Collie X Greyhound used to be a very popular cross, there must be lads out there, breeding this cross, its just a case of looking around and being prepared to wait.

[lazycunt 59]

i dont no what ur all getting upset about the man has to make a living hes not ramming pups down peoples throats if ya want one going get it if dont stop moaning then yous bring brain plummer into it a legend in his own lifetime

Edited May 20, 2011 by lazycunt

[torchey 1,328]

a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for.

 

So f*****g what!!, shame on your mate for encouraging c**ts like handcock.

Theres a lot worse c**ts than hancock out there,at least he,s monitored all the time by the amount of people that turn up there.Seen good and bad come out of there,so if your after a certain collie cross and can,t find a working litter ,,,why not..there are people on here that seem to have litters every year supply and demand i suppose...