boyo 1,398 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for. 1 Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 heres another prediction, it might not turn out any good cos it will be bred off parents that have never seen a rabbit and you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for. You bet mate!!!! Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 wish I had a crystal ball that could predict every pup from a kennel was going to be great just because the owner put the time in will it still be great if it has behaviour problems or yapps its tits off chasing a bunny or applys the abs on a winter big rabbit. whos fault will it be then? by your theory it must be the owner's if its the man behind the dog that makes the dog and nothing else. right? Quote Link to post
coney clucky 93 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 a good mate of mine has just ordered a pup from hancocks and to all the hancock knockers heres a prediction .. this pup will end up a real good un .WHY because my mate who is buying it will put the time into it he is out every day with his dogs and lives for his dogs .this pup will be living the life a lurcher was supposed to be for. ive had hancock dogs mate nowt wrong with them started of with them 22 years ago and into bull x now but never found owt wrong with my hancocks he not breeding the same bloodlines as back then but whos to say their not as good you only get out what u put in a t b Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 heres another prediction, it might not turn out any good cos it will be bred off parents that have never seen a rabbit and you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear And I've seen dozens of idiots making sow's ears from silk purses mate purely down to blowjobs who haven't a f*****g clue!!!! Quote Link to post
brianL84 11 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 heres another prediction, it might not turn out any good cos it will be bred off parents that have never seen a rabbit and you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear BULLSHIT i had one and it was the best dog iv ever had 1 Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 toby i have found over the years most failures in running dogs are down to the owner if purchased as a young pup.there are exceptions to this as in everything but mostly its the owners fault not socialising or doing enough with it and giving up to early with it.i bred a litter of first x of my greyhound bitch who hadnt worked but was a cracking track dog all the litter are flying bar one who was locked in a pen not taken out or socialised and didnt know how to run i bought it back and gave it to a mate for nothing he spends every hour of the day with it this pup although way behind the rest of the litter .is now chasing jumping and living life to the full. Quote Link to post
scalesntails 118 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 You get plenty of bad dogs from working parents because they haven't been raised and trained correctly You also get plenty of decent dogs from non working parents because they have had the training and the correct upbringing. Personally I like dogs from working parents that I have trained and raised to the best of my abilities. That you have increased the odds of your dog being a goodun. 2 Quote Link to post
coney clucky 93 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 heres another prediction, it might not turn out any good cos it will be bred off parents that have never seen a rabbit and you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear And I've seen dozens of idiots making sow's ears from silk purses mate purely down to blowjobs who haven't a f*****g clue!!!! hancocks dogs were back then bred from working or x working farm bred collies border and beardies and he used coursing bred or racing type greyhounds i spent couple of hours taking to david when igot my hancock and he is a wealth of knowledge on collie types only thing is when you breed that many you are bound to get some bad ones and thats when the knockers start my dog was thru enock who was the sire andhis grand sire was the well known richard jones he bred some good dog out of them many went to america to hunts for coyote and racoon hunting things change over the years but only speaking from my personal dealing with hancocks id not knock them my dog tarn was as game as me bull x dogs of old without a dout Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 as in all breeds you get good and bad but a lot of it is what you put in to the pup .as i said there are exceptions as in everything Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 i know what your saying boyo but even the best dogman cant put something there thats not there he can only bring the best out and do his part to the fullest:nurture,, then the dog has to take over:nature,, you wont get a really good dog if one of thems missing Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Personally I like dogs from working parents that I have trained and raised to the best of my abilities. That you have increased the odds of your dog being a goodun. agree with that mate Quote Link to post
coney clucky 93 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 as in all breeds you get good and bad but a lot of it is what you put in to the pup .as i said there are exceptions as in everything spot on boyo hit the nail right on the head pall Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Here we go again, another Hancock thread, if you are turning out the amount of pups as these breeders are doing, the law of averages, you will breed decent stock, and also some mediocre, But they would not be breeding if there was no demand, I myself prefer worker to worker, but that's just my opinion. The plus things I can see with Hancock dogs, is you get what it says in the tin, and pups are always available. Quote Link to post
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