grafter-man 43 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 GM i think ur just stirring shit now, to be fair, yes the americans buy dogs for obscene amounts of money but thats mainly amongst thereselves.. R Booth aint american and Deadgame message board aint his either,.. So do you think breeders are peddlers or how do you differentiate the two? I feel a peddler is someone who breeds with the sole intention of profiting from the litter in mind, instead of doing what is right for the litter,terrier, his family, or line of terriers. Someone who will breed untested terriers etc with the sole intention of profit. A breeder is someone who very carefully or selectively breeds seasoned workers for the sole purpose of complimenting or bettering his line or family of terriers in mind with every breeding. Always looking to better his family of terriers. So I believe what sets a breeder and a peddler apart is, motive. Or the love for a sport VS money or profit. Noone said anything about giving your mates a pup from the breeding if you choose, but, just because a pup is being intimidated by a sibling is no reason to sale the fecker for some crazy arse price. I see nothing wrong with gifting a terrier to a mate or someone that you know will do what is best for the terrier in mind, And very true Busterdog, I understand that you still have access of the terrier, only if, it was placed with a mate or someone you know will do what is right. But, are any of you honestly attempting to tell me that a terrierman does not assure that he gets the very best from every litter by rearing, and culling through the terriers for himself or his kennels in mind? Who's to say that the only worker in the litter wasn't sold or gifted?? Then where is he at? Back to square one! And as far as Robert Booth, never met the bloke, I just see the shite he peddles via website, messageboards, etc. The claims that are made by him and his followers and the prices that are fetched for his revolutionized breed of patterdale terriers, in my opinion is rubbish. He is in my eyes a peddler, and honestly the best example I can find to give you for a peddler. And from what the lads here say, a thief. Do I know this to be fact?, no sir I do not, he has never stole a terrier from me. I can tell you by email conversation he makes outlandish statements about his supposed famous line of workers, and will sale a terrier for an unreasonable amount faster than a live chicken in Ethiopia. Don't get me wrong, it is not just Booth, there are several website peddlers that fits the same shoe. He is just the most notorius peddler that I know about. I am not having a go with you or anyone for that matter, and all this is merely my opinion and doesn't hold water to anyone but me mate, I respect everyone's opinion that has posted on this thread, can't say I agree with them all, but, I respect them. just my thoughts and figured I'd post the latest peddlers blog. All the best mates. http://www.hund.ch/zuechter/zpages/z1623.htm , http://www.workingterriers.fr/ , http://www.wix.com/nellyn/robert , Posted for Pa, I'm sure if I looked I could find more adverts, 3 reasons why I feel as I do, I can post many more that make me draw the "OPINION" I hold. Quote Link to post
Guest busterdog Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 GM i think ur just stirring shit now, to be fair, yes the americans buy dogs for obscene amounts of money but thats mainly amongst thereselves.. R Booth aint american and Deadgame message board aint his either,.. So do you think breeders are peddlers or how do you differentiate the two? I feel a peddler is someone who breeds with the sole intention of profiting from the litter in mind, instead of doing what is right for the litter,terrier, his family, or line of terriers. Someone who will breed untested terriers etc with the sole intention of profit. A breeder is someone who very carefully or selectively breeds seasoned workers for the sole purpose of complimenting or bettering his line or family of terriers in mind with every breeding. Always looking to better his family of terriers. So I believe what sets a breeder and a peddler apart is, motive. Or the love for a sport VS money or profit. Noone said anything about giving your mates a pup from the breeding if you choose, but, just because a pup is being intimidated by a sibling is no reason to sale the fecker for some crazy arse price. I see nothing wrong with gifting a terrier to a mate or someone that you know will do what is best for the terrier in mind, And very true Busterdog, I understand that you still have access of the terrier, only if, it was placed with a mate or someone you know will do what is right. But, are any of you honestly attempting to tell me that a terrierman does not assure that he gets the very best from every litter by rearing, and culling through the terriers for himself or his kennels in mind? Who's to say that the only worker in the litter wasn't sold or gifted?? Then where is he at? Back to square one! And as far as Robert Booth, never met the bloke, I just see the shite he peddles via website, messageboards, etc. The claims that are made by him and his followers and the prices that are fetched for his revolutionized breed of patterdale terriers, in my opinion is rubbish. He is in my eyes a peddler, and honestly the best example I can find to give you for a peddler. And from what the lads here say, a thief. Do I know this to be fact?, no sir I do not, he has never stole a terrier from me. I can tell you by email conversation he makes outlandish statements about his supposed famous line of workers, and will sale a terrier for an unreasonable amount faster than a live chicken in Ethiopia. Don't get me wrong, it is not just Booth, there are several website peddlers that fits the same shoe. He is just the most notorius peddler that I know about. I am not having a go with you or anyone for that matter, and all this is merely my opinion and doesn't hold water to anyone but me mate, I respect everyone's opinion that has posted on this thread, can't say I agree with them all, but, I respect them. just my thoughts and figured I'd post the latest peddlers blog. All the best mates. http://www.hund.ch/z...pages/z1623.htm , http://www.workingterriers.fr/ , http://www.wix.com/nellyn/robert , Posted for Pa, I'm sure if I looked I could find more adverts, 3 reasons why I feel as I do, I can post many more that make me draw the "OPINION" I hold. Thats me back on board lol Quote Link to post
lee micheal kennels 12 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) i dont think ye need to worry about any other site out there, this site does more damage than any to the terrier world and hunting in general.. every inaccuracy and terriermans daydreams are found right here.. well said pa could not agree more... Edited May 23, 2011 by lee micheal kennels Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 i think ur pretty accurate on ur idea of breeder to a peddlar, as for the post above it doesnt prove anything as it only sets contradiction to your statement of that man been a peddlar, i still think ur just stirring shit.. i watched a man only yesterday open a van at a show to reveal a bitch on pups, 250 a pup he said, (bit steep on a working mans wage especially in this economic climate) 1 lad took a pup and i dont remember him asking if it was gonna be worked or who yer man was.. now GM in your opinion, what would he be? Quote Link to post
Mosby 355 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Now that I seen some pictures of em... how do I get some? ha ha Quote Link to post
grafter-man 43 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Now that I seen some pictures of em... how do I get some? ha ha They are being peddled world wide from France, Korea, to the States. I didn't realize there was a Deadgame Patterdales in Korea until today. http://cafe.daum.net/patterdaleterrier Ha! Ha! and I guess other members here had better photos than he did so he used their pics on his site instead of his own. GD Waz what do you think of the photos of the black terrier working his euro badger? Edited May 25, 2011 by grafter-man Quote Link to post
Waz 4,266 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Now that I seen some pictures of em... how do I get some? ha ha They are being peddled world wide from France, Korea, to the States. I didn't realize there was a Deadgame Patterdales in Korea until today. http://cafe.daum.net/patterdaleterrier Ha! Ha! and I guess other members here had better photos than he did so he used their pics on his site instead of his own. GD Waz what do you think of the photos of the black terrier working his euro badger? LOL Edit to add: WOndering what that the pups I got here?! :wacko: & also what other name you go by G-M? LOL Edited May 25, 2011 by GD Waz Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) prob another moddey dhoo Edited May 25, 2011 by wexford Pa 1 Quote Link to post
grafter-man 43 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 prob another moddey dhoo Thank you mate, but, I must ask how did you break away from suckling from RB's right testicle long enough to post on this thread? What gives Pa?, why do you jump to defence EVERYTIME anyone post's about Booth or his associates? One would almost feel as if you condone or approve of terrier theft, peddling, writing false peds, etc. Do you own a kennel full of his terriers? Or are you so deeply in lust with them that you have been blinded to this activity? I have wondered this about you for some time now, so in fairness, I am asking you. all the best lad. Quote Link to post
grafter-man 43 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Now that I seen some pictures of em... how do I get some? ha ha They are being peddled world wide from France, Korea, to the States. I didn't realize there was a Deadgame Patterdales in Korea until today. http://cafe.daum.net/patterdaleterrier Ha! Ha! and I guess other members here had better photos than he did so he used their pics on his site instead of his own. GD Waz what do you think of the photos of the black terrier working his euro badger? LOL Edit to add: WOndering what that the pups I got here?! :wacko: & also what other name you go by G-M? LOL I go by my given name but I am not dumb enough to post it on a public forum, and I was just wondering how a pic of one your terriers ended up on korean deadgame patterdales peddler site? thats all mate. all the best Quote Link to post
Waz 4,266 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Now that I seen some pictures of em... how do I get some? ha ha They are being peddled world wide from France, Korea, to the States. I didn't realize there was a Deadgame Patterdales in Korea until today. http://cafe.daum.net/patterdaleterrier Ha! Ha! and I guess other members here had better photos than he did so he used their pics on his site instead of his own. GD Waz what do you think of the photos of the black terrier working his euro badger? LOL Edit to add: WOndering what that the pups I got here?! :wacko: & also what other name you go by G-M? LOL I go by my given name but I am not dumb enough to post it on a public forum, and I was just wondering how a pic of one your terriers ended up on korean deadgame patterdales peddler site? thats all mate. all the best No photo of mine or photo of a dog of mine is on that site. But keep up the good fight all the same Quote Link to post
grafter-man 43 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) oh no, so you dont own the black dog in this slideshow working the euro badger? I think your status says it all about one of your friends being a dirty photo thief but I wanted to know for sure. your status: GD Waz I got 8 friends listed.. 2 are possibly the same person, 1 is a sexy kitten, 1 is a mate, 1 is a dirty photo thief, dunno who the other 2 are. edit to add status Edited May 25, 2011 by grafter-man Quote Link to post
Waz 4,266 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Why on earth would yould you put cut and copy and paste that photo up on here?? Ive already told you "No photo of mine or photo of a dog of mine is on that site." Edited to add: Edited May 25, 2011 by GD Waz Quote Link to post
grafter-man 43 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Why on earth would yould you put cut and copy and paste that photo up on here?? Ive already told you "No photo of mine or photo of a dog of mine is on that site." Edited to add: :db: :db: ok Quote Link to post
Waz 4,266 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Why on earth would yould you put cut and copy and paste that photo up on here?? Ive already told you "No photo of mine or photo of a dog of mine is on that site." Edited to add: :db: :db: ok Theres those that know and then theres those that think they know. Quote Link to post
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