LURCHERS!!!!!!

[stewie 3,387]

Jai Ive seen hundreds of gun dogs mate been going beating since i was 6 yrs old, owned spaniels and helped out on many field trails over in shropshire, even seen mr openshaw of rytex fame compete in one and no its far from fetching a dead bird! Its all about hunting up, sitting on flush, not rushing in to retrieve etc but i have never seen a trail dog do anything a lurcher trained in that way couldnt do mate! I even know someone who used to walk the woods with a of old lurchers after the shoot had finished and pick up birds the pick ups had missed lol

[Lab 10,979]

Jai Ive seen hundreds of gun dogs mate been going beating since i was 6 yrs old, owned spaniels and helped out on many field trails over in shropshire, even seen mr openshaw of rytex fame compete in one and no its far from fetching a dead bird! Its all about hunting up, sitting on flush, not rushing in to retrieve etc but i have never seen a trail dog do anything a lurcher trained in that way couldnt do mate! I even know someone who used to walk the woods with a of old lurchers after the shoot had finished and pick up birds the pick ups had missed lol

Can you send your lurcher out 400 yards, left/right/back, stop it, put it over a fence and then let it use its nose to find a pricked bird thats running like a mofo when it hasn't even seen the bird falling?..... Come back and tell me when you can mate.....

[stewie 3,387]

Lol no i Myself cant mate but only because i never needed to train them to do them but ill bet you there is plenty out there that could! Could you honestly say your labs could do that then mate?

[Lab 10,979]

Lol no i Myself cant mate but only because i never needed to train them to do them but ill bet you there is plenty out there that could! Could you honestly say your labs could do that then mate?

Yes mate my big dog can do that easy and my old bitch(10) could go back the distance and find the bird but she would struggle with the fence mate. Hopefully my 2 pups will be getting near that kind of standard next year too....

What i would say though if i was looking for a dog to put food on the table then obviously a lurcher would be the dog for the job.....

[socks 32,253]

Jai Ive seen hundreds of gun dogs mate been going beating since i was 6 yrs old, owned spaniels and helped out on many field trails over in shropshire, even seen mr openshaw of rytex fame compete in one and no its far from fetching a dead bird! Its all about hunting up, sitting on flush, not rushing in to retrieve etc but i have never seen a trail dog do anything a lurcher trained in that way couldnt do mate! I even know someone who used to walk the woods with a of old lurchers after the shoot had finished and pick up birds the pick ups had missed lol

Can you send your lurcher out 400 yards, left/right/back, stop it, put it over a fence and then let it use its nose to find a pricked bird thats running like a mofo when it hasn't even seen the bird falling?..... Come back and tell me when you can mate.....

 

I CAN .......

[Lab 10,979]

Jai Ive seen hundreds of gun dogs mate been going beating since i was 6 yrs old, owned spaniels and helped out on many field trails over in shropshire, even seen mr openshaw of rytex fame compete in one and no its far from fetching a dead bird! Its all about hunting up, sitting on flush, not rushing in to retrieve etc but i have never seen a trail dog do anything a lurcher trained in that way couldnt do mate! I even know someone who used to walk the woods with a of old lurchers after the shoot had finished and pick up birds the pick ups had missed lol

Can you send your lurcher out 400 yards, left/right/back, stop it, put it over a fence and then let it use its nose to find a pricked bird thats running like a mofo when it hasn't even seen the bird falling?..... Come back and tell me when you can mate.....

 

I CAN .......

Must have a bit lab in it somewhere then, I'd love to see that too....... Great to see a well trained lurcher!

[socks 32,253]

first cross collie grey ... plenty have seen her do it ... i can control her purely with hand signals ......

[stewie 3,387]

Told you lab lol! Socks any pics of your Bitch working?

[nighteyes 275]

will put there hand to most,but wont retreave like a well trained gundog will, tread water 50/100 yards out waiting for hand signals to a blind bird not many lurchers caple of that

[Paid 935]

Never seen a lurcher herd sheep. So maybe as a hunting dog, you are right, but as a working dog, I would have to put the collie first as the best dog in the countryside.

[socks 32,253]

Told you lab lol! Socks any pics of your Bitch working?

 

hundereds on here in my hunting posts ... and you can see her working on the dvd a few ferrets more ... she is the black bitch in the last segment of the film .....

[Bogger 243]

lab-tastics dogs are great retreivers but they point at nettle patches

[Casso 1,261]

Lurchers are generally an intelligent dog with fair amount of drive, so are most other dogs bred to work with man, those traits can be channeled into different elements of work whatever it is,,

 

saying that , once those traits are present, it falls to the owner and his ability with dogs , and thats where the real answer lies, in the handler,,not the dog,

[Malt 379]

There was a similar thread to this a while back..

 

I don't think a lurcher would live with a purpose bred gun dog at the top of it's game. I will say that I reckon a lurcher will do a gun dog's job better than a gun dog will do a lurcher's job though..

[Ideation 8,216]

There was a similar thread to this a while back..

 

I don't think a lurcher would live with a purpose bred gun dog at the top of it's game. I will say that I reckon a lurcher will do a gun dog's job better than a gun dog will do a lurcher's job though..

 

 

Your right there

 

It's also the question of - if you wanted to train a lurcher (probably collie based) as a gun dog you could, but you would be dismantling the lurcher in it.

 

Not sure you could have a lurcher that does its own job very well AND that of the gun dog very well.

 

You'd probably end up shooting your lurcher.

 

And then you have water fowling, few lurchers would stick that at its toughest.