fat man 4,741 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Good topic Kevin. I've been the cause of a couple of dogs throwing in the towel. like wise lad ,at least your future dogs will be better for you acknowledgeing it, Mustard weve all done it if we were honest enough to hold our hands up. 1 Quote Link to post
russellcur 15 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 If you put the dog in a deep earth then 2 deep digs is more than 10 shallow easy ones IMO Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 If you put the dog in a deep earth then 2 deep digs is more than 10 shallow easy ones IMO Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 i rather av 4 quailty digs then 10 easy ones i think when you got to bring em on wraped in wool yov not got what you relly after if they got it there show what they made of. jmo got a very well bred pup at the moment it be tested i think the reason a lot of dogs dont make the grade is too many lads think they need to be tested in there first season i saw a young bitch doin very well this season on a tough dig and two weeks later i heard the bitch had a blip and was gone i think the owner is to blame then for havin her out so soon again jmho Its not only first season dogs that fail,any terrier thats worked sore time and time again will eventually throw in the towel.I know of 1 very good bitch that was dug to in all sorts of places and never once came away,then she was sold and worked without leting her heal properly and she jibbed,no fault of her own there not machines. 5 Quote Link to post
kevin em 342 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 a lot of lads think there robots how many of us would take a thrashin in a club on a saturday night and go back every week for more of the same Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 a lot of lads think there robots how many of us would take a thrashin in a club on a saturday night and go back every week for more of the same Haha keven i think both me and you are a bit long in the tooth for clubing,but you are right too many good dogs were destroyed by being pushed too far,they all have there limits. Quote Link to post
rocket ronnie 243 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Great thread keV an some sound fellas Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 a lot of lads think there robots how many of us would take a thrashin in a club on a saturday night and go back every week for more of the same Haha keven i think both me and you are a bit long in the tooth for clubing,but you are right too many good dogs were destroyed by being pushed too far,they all have there limits. the lads that think they have robots are the same lads that if there lucky will only get 2 seasons from a dog and then will bad mouth the lad that bred the dog Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 a lot of lads think there robots how many of us would take a thrashin in a club on a saturday night and go back every week for more of the same we used too attend a very famous niteclub around our part back in the day kevin and you usually got a thrashing every weekend but you had too go back as there was no where else too go but it done our running ability no end of good Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 how I've allways seen it we the owners are the brains of the partnership because a good keen terrier just like the older terriers only have one thing on there mind and that's to get to and at its quarry, they have no idea of time or depth so i take young terrier to shallow earths, where i can hear whats going on and if all that happens is bumping after they find i give them less time before i dig if they're working away nicely i lay on the ground and listen and could leave it to it for a hour or more 1 Quote Link to post
vduben 55 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 my dog was 13 months when he was first entered properly and he came away after 2 hours because he couldnt hold under ground, but we went back 3 weeks later and he held and stayed and we dug to him since then hes had 4 more digs and every time hes stayed but hes getting harder, hopefully he will chill out a little bit but i think 5 digs was plenty for him Quote Link to post
slips 114 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 i rather av 4 quailty digs then 10 easy ones i think when you got to bring em on wraped in wool yov not got what you relly after if they got it there show what they made of. jmo got a very well bred pup at the moment it be tested i think the reason a lot of dogs dont make the grade is too many lads think they need to be tested in there first season i saw a young bitch doin very well this season on a tough dig and two weeks later i heard the bitch had a blip and was gone i think the owner is to blame then for havin her out so soon again jmho Its not only first season dogs that fail,any terrier thats worked sore time and time again will eventually throw in the towel.I know of 1 very good bitch that was dug to in all sorts of places and never once came away,then she was sold and worked without leting her heal properly and she jibbed,no fault of her own there not machines. they dont have to be smash up to be good digs and only a fool works them sore. when they got it there show you it then its down to owner to mould it Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Working a "hard" dog lightly in it's first season only encourages that style and does nothing to help that dog find all their gears, it's a common mistake. Every dog is different and need bringing on differently to get the best out of them, 20 digs might crack one animal but make another. I wouldn't have any fixed number in my head but just work an animal on it's own merit. Bryan 2 Quote Link to post
caughsurup 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 That's spot on advice Bryan Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Working a "hard" dog lightly in it's first season only encourages that style and does nothing to help that dog find all their gears, it's a common mistake. Every dog is different and need bringing on differently to get the best out of them, 20 digs might crack one animal but make another. I wouldn't have any fixed number in my head but just work an animal on it's own merit. Bryan spot on bryan hit the nail on the head i also think that most of these so called rock hard dogs would benifit from a bit more work and would soon learn how too use there voice . Quote Link to post
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