All rounder

[North east finest 105]

ive never owned a allrounder, but id say the old minshaw dogs are the perfect allrounder (rambo blue)

[watchman 256]

I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out

 

 

i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder

 

the thing is with an all-rounder is that it can be classed as so for some but not truly for others,you said yourself yours would not take things that bite back so although close not quite the real thing,

i just mean that with all the things some of our dogs can regularly take there is always an attribute missing therefore not an all-rounder

 

 

na mate i am sorry but i disagree, 2 things make an allrounder imo

 

1, dont kid yerself...........buy a pup that has all the chances a making the dog ye want it to be......... dont buy a coursing dog if ye intend on lamping fox regular, if thats part of what ye expect an allrounder to do.......

 

2, time, time time, more ye get a dog oot more chances its got a mastering its trade/trades....

 

i have said the bitch i owned was as close as i had come, an that was for 1 reason, i never intended to work her on teeth an thats why i choose the type a dog she was, if that makes sense...........

 

ok fair enough but if thats the case then i have to change my first answer,yes i have owned a decent all-rounder but she to would not entertain fox

[DottyDoo 500]

I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out

 

 

i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder

 

the thing is with an all-rounder is that it can be classed as so for some but not truly for others,you said yourself yours would not take things that bite back so although close not quite the real thing,

i just mean that with all the things some of our dogs can regularly take there is always an attribute missing therefore not an all-rounder

 

 

na mate i am sorry but i disagree, 2 things make an allrounder imo

 

1, dont kid yerself...........buy a pup that has all the chances a making the dog ye want it to be......... dont buy a coursing dog if ye intend on lamping fox regular, if thats part of what ye expect an allrounder to do.......

 

2, time, time time, more ye get a dog oot more chances its got a mastering its trade/trades....

 

i have said the bitch i owned was as close as i had come, an that was for 1 reason, i never intended to work her on teeth an thats why i choose the type a dog she was, if that makes sense...........

 

ok fair enough but if thats the case then i have to change my first answer,yes i have owned a decent all-rounder but she to would not entertain fox

 

 

if she wasnt intended for fox, then she is an allrounder to you, like mine was for me, thats just way i see it

[moonlighter 1,164]

A lot of good dogs will turn there hand to most stuff, but you'd never get a dog that excels at all lurcher work. My old saluki cross can catch 3/3 hares and I take him foxing with the terriers catching bolters....but he'd never stick his head down a hole so you carnt say he excels at terrier work! Likewise, dogs that do, that I've seen, you couldn't take on a days coursing, which is different to catching the odd hare.

[watchman 256]

I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out

 

 

i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder

 

the thing is with an all-rounder is that it can be classed as so for some but not truly for others,you said yourself yours would not take things that bite back so although close not quite the real thing,

i just mean that with all the things some of our dogs can regularly take there is always an attribute missing therefore not an all-rounder

 

 

na mate i am sorry but i disagree, 2 things make an allrounder imo

 

1, dont kid yerself...........buy a pup that has all the chances a making the dog ye want it to be......... dont buy a coursing dog if ye intend on lamping fox regular, if thats part of what ye expect an allrounder to do.......

 

2, time, time time, more ye get a dog oot more chances its got a mastering its trade/trades....

 

i have said the bitch i owned was as close as i had come, an that was for 1 reason, i never intended to work her on teeth an thats why i choose the type a dog she was, if that makes sense...........

 

ok fair enough but if thats the case then i have to change my first answer,yes i have owned a decent all-rounder but she to would not entertain fox

 

 

if she wasnt intended for fox, then she is an allrounder to you, like mine was for me, thats just way i see it

 

thats good enough for me

[Rabbiting man 1,192]

I dont do fox, deer, hare any more im a rabbiter been so for last 15 years all so what i.ve been a hunting man from day one im 30 years old and i.ve have working dogs around me for them 30 years as going out with my dad so now im a rabbiting man I like a dog that can work in the day a dog that can mark 100% when im out ferreting a dog that work with terriers and lamping

[Simoman 110]

Has this not been done to death??? An 'all rounder' to most folk is a dog that hasn't let them down at something they have asked of it. Very few folk have the chance, time or inclination to try to take every quarry, in every situation, on every type of land. imo.

 

 

I don't think so, i was purely trying to ignite some debate that didn't involve "what do you think of a saluki/bull/basenji/tortoise" or "why do people like bull lurchers", now thats been done to death.......Although you get brownie points for the drawing thread..........

[toby1066 413]

a good working whippet alrounder rabbit hare deer fox

 

 

cross it with a beddy and now your talking

[scent 509]

an all rounder to me is a dog that does everyting you ask of him .He can take all quarry and not let you down .Iv been blessed to own one but he is pushing on now so i only use him for fox but id def call him an all rounder .He has taken anything iv put in front of him and loves his job and does it well

[Ideation 8,216]

Has this not been done to death??? An 'all rounder' to most folk is a dog that hasn't let them down at something they have asked of it. Very few folk have the chance, time or inclination to try to take every quarry, in every situation, on every type of land. imo.

 

 

I don't think so, i was purely trying to ignite some debate that didn't involve "what do you think of a saluki/bull/basenji/tortoise" or "why do people like bull lurchers", now thats been done to death.......Although you get brownie points for the drawing thread..........

 

 

I was going to write an answer for you, but then got distracted by the video on your sig.

[iceman001979 1,316]

An all rounder is a dog that hunts everything its owner hunts.

[MOO 730]

A lot of good dogs will turn there hand to most stuff, but you'd never get a dog that excels at all lurcher work. My old saluki cross can catch 3/3 hares and I take him foxing with the terriers catching bolters....but he'd never stick his head down a hole so you carnt say he excels at terrier work! Likewise, dogs that do, that I've seen, you couldn't take on a days coursing, which is different to catching the odd hare.

Surely an all rounder was a dog that consitantly killed all quarry day and night nothing more nothing less ....but just because a lurcher did not draw surely would not stop it from being classed as an all rouder as lurchers ...imo opinion a lurcher should be judged on its running and catching abilitys

[paulus 26]

an all rounder to me is a dog that suites the evioronment you hunt in and can be used in all the types of hunting the owner participates in, whotever the quarry in you perticular invioronment and depending on location this will change up and down the country and however hunted again this will depend on the individuals situation. hope that makes sense

[Mars 42]

Now i was sorely tempted to start a "what cross is best" or "why have bull in a lurcher" but i resisted the temptation. Now this question is aimed pre ban obviously or if you are fortunate to live in a country with a less dictatorial political system!!!!

What did you deem an all rounder?? May seem an obvious question but its relative and ones mans all rounder is another mans rubbin rag

 

Is an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species, plucking pheasents from deep cover and also knocking over hares using fieldcraft or under coursing rules, can anyone say they have seen or owned a dog that has put a creditable showing on all of these, i can safely say many of my dogs could do some but certainly not all..............

 

an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species,

 

For me it`s the above as you wrote.... I.M.O. a dog that could have done hare "Pre Ban" given fair law is a specialist dog....

Not saying that dogs that did all of the above wouldn`t have caught the odd hare but as you said would they have caught enough to be classed as competent...

 

Mars...

[stav11 32]

i can actually say yes i have,she was a bull/greyxsaluki/grey/whip r/h/f/d day time,night time also catch feather retrieve a line caught trout,she was sound ferreting out with terriers would draw at the end of a dig and was ok out on the shoot retrieving shot pidgeon/pheasant. unluckly was killed at the age of 7 due to an accident r.i.p lass