Simoman 110 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Now i was sorely tempted to start a "what cross is best" or "why have bull in a lurcher" but i resisted the temptation. Now this question is aimed pre ban obviously or if you are fortunate to live in a country with a less dictatorial political system!!!! What did you deem an all rounder?? May seem an obvious question but its relative and ones mans all rounder is another mans rubbin rag Is an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species, plucking pheasents from deep cover and also knocking over hares using fieldcraft or under coursing rules, can anyone say they have seen or owned a dog that has put a creditable showing on all of these, i can safely say many of my dogs could do some but certainly not all.............. Quote Link to post
Guest TERRIERCENTRAL Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 me myself class an all rounder as a dog / bitch that can catch r/h/f/d regular and run big open land and also catch in small fields and run day and night but thats just me thanks jak Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) myself pre ban i would class a allrounder a dog that can knock a fox not numbers,pull the odd dear,catch a hare no 3/3 but can catch if one gets up,caple of doing afew rabbits on a night out,and do abit of ferreting with hold rabbits in nets ect mark ,but thats my version of a allrounder to some people that wouldnt be ,everyone has different stanards and would want alot more Edited May 16, 2011 by nighteyes 1 Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Some people would of had all rounders but how many owners gave the dog a chance to show if it was an allrounder ?...a dog that killed all quarry might not be an allrounder but that could be due to the owner not giveing the dog the oppertunity to become an allrounder Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Now i was sorely tempted to start a "what cross is best" or "why have bull in a lurcher" but i resisted the temptation. Now this question is aimed pre ban obviously or if you are fortunate to live in a country with a less dictatorial political system!!!! What did you deem an all rounder?? May seem an obvious question but its relative and ones mans all rounder is another mans rubbin rag Is an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species, plucking pheasents from deep cover and also knocking over hares using fieldcraft or under coursing rules, can anyone say they have seen or owned a dog that has put a creditable showing on all of these, i can safely say many of my dogs could do some but certainly not all.............. never seen a good all rounder let alone owned one,one that is really capable of doing all you have listed,is there really such a dog,not sure if i truly believe there is to be honest just seems a big ask for one dog to me Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Now i was sorely tempted to start a "what cross is best" or "why have bull in a lurcher" but i resisted the temptation. Now this question is aimed pre ban obviously or if you are fortunate to live in a country with a less dictatorial political system!!!! What did you deem an all rounder?? May seem an obvious question but its relative and ones mans all rounder is another mans rubbin rag Is an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species, plucking pheasents from deep cover and also knocking over hares using fieldcraft or under coursing rules, can anyone say they have seen or owned a dog that has put a creditable showing on all of these, i can safely say many of my dogs could do some but certainly not all.............. As far as a definition goes, I think you have pretty well hit the nail on the head.. Quote Link to post
storm323 191 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I have never seen an allround lurcher the way you have mentioned would they of had to be good at every one of them quarry or just a jack of all trades ?what deer would you of sed the dog would of had to do and ferreting there is a big diffrence from a dog that catches a few bolters to a dog that does the lot when ferreting. Quote Link to post
nitestalker 28 209 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Now i was sorely tempted to start a "what cross is best" or "why have bull in a lurcher" but i resisted the temptation. Now this question is aimed pre ban obviously or if you are fortunate to live in a country with a less dictatorial political system!!!! What did you deem an all rounder?? May seem an obvious question but its relative and ones mans all rounder is another mans rubbin rag Is an all rounder the dog that could be worked in a variety of hunting situations against all quarry and put up a creditable performance, that may be ferreting and lamping bunnies, working alongside terriers on a dig or lamping Charlie on a sleety December morning, pulling daytime deer of varying species, plucking pheasents from deep cover and also knocking over hares using fieldcraft or under coursing rules, can anyone say they have seen or owned a dog that has put a creditable showing on all of these, i can safely say many of my dogs could do some but certainly not all.............. had a 3/4 coursin hound 1/4 bull bitch tat cud do charlie regualar deer bunnies odd hare mark real well n pull ANYTHIN from the ground all pre ban of course if tats an all rounder hope it help atb Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 a good working whippet alrounder rabbit hare deer fox 1 Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 closest i have come to owning an allrounder was a bitch that could/would take all edible game that i hunted, by whatever means possible... was worked on lamp, wae ferrets, nets an guns she would not touch toothed quarry tho, so im sure some would a classed her as a jacker, but seeing as that was not my goal she was what I class as an allrounder, or as close as i have been to owning 1 Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder the thing is with an all-rounder is that it can be classed as so for some but not truly for others,you said yourself yours would not take things that bite back so although close not quite the real thing, i just mean that with all the things some of our dogs can regularly take there is always it seems an attribute missing therefore not an all-rounder Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Has this not been done to death??? An 'all rounder' to most folk is a dog that hasn't let them down at something they have asked of it. Very few folk have the chance, time or inclination to try to take every quarry, in every situation, on every type of land. imo. Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I cant believe the all rounder is such a mythical beast that everyone is makeing out i honeslty dont beleive its mythical beast mate, more to do wae the fact that not enuff people got the time to put the effort into a dog to make it an allrounder the thing is with an all-rounder is that it can be classed as so for some but not truly for others,you said yourself yours would not take things that bite back so although close not quite the real thing, i just mean that with all the things some of our dogs can regularly take there is always an attribute missing therefore not an all-rounder na mate i am sorry but i disagree, 2 things make an allrounder imo 1, dont kid yerself...........buy a pup that has all the chances a making the dog ye want it to be......... dont buy a coursing dog if ye intend on lamping fox regular, if thats part of what ye expect an allrounder to do....... 2, time, time time, more ye get a dog oot more chances its got a mastering its trade/trades.... i have said the bitch i owned was as close as i had come, an that was for 1 reason, i never intended to work her on teeth an thats why i choose the type a dog she was, if that makes sense........... Quote Link to post
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