HW77

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

A friend of mine said he would sell me his HW77 for £120. it needs a lot of work done to it, like a new underlever, the metalwork needs re-painting and blueing, the stock is sanded down and ready for a varnish. It needs a scope rail, theres no saftey pin, and the trigger guard is missing its grub screw. Its also very overpowered and will need a new spring or gas-ram. I really wanted one before i got my lightning XL but i couldnt really afford one in good nick.

 

Should i go ahead and buy it to do it up, does it sound like a good buy???

 

It would be good for a little hobby, then id either sell it or my XL or both, for a PCP Rifle

[just jack 998]

hobby

[moxy 617]

By the time you have paid for a new underlever, reblued the metal work, varnished the stock, added a new scope rail, paid for a new safety button ( supposing that nothing else is missing) Replaced the spring and piston seals..............etc etc.

 

What will you have in the rifle? Value wise............?

 

Unless you are going to bring it back to concourse condition to retain a little value it sounds like a loser to me.

 

Like jacko boy says, hobby.

 

Bid your mate in the nuts and it may be worth doing

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi Sean.

The great thing about Weihrauchs is that they are not difficult to repair and restore and parts are easy to get hold of from Hull Cartridge or via you gunshop. As long as the barrel is good and true and the inside cylinder faces are undamaged by scoring from damaged/broken springs etc., the rest of this 77 can be restored to a superbly accurate rifle once more.

 

What do you mean by a new scope rail though? These rifles have perfectly good scoperails as recessed grooves cut into the top of the cylinder.

 

Simon

[andyfr1968 772]

Mate, from what you've described, its scrap.

 

As has been said, on top of all the faults you've listed there will be other expense. If its anything more than free then you've been robbed......

 

Cheers.

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

Hi Sean.

The great thing about Weihrauchs is that they are not difficult to repair and restore and parts are easy to get hold of from Hull Cartridge or via you gunshop. As long as the barrel is good and true and the inside cylinder faces are undamaged by scoring from damaged/broken springs etc., the rest of this 77 can be restored to a superbly accurate rifle once more.

 

What do you mean by a new scope rail though? These rifles have perfectly good scoperails as recessed grooves cut into the top of the cylinder.

 

Simon

 

 

oh i know i can fix it up for next to nothing, the parts aint expencive really. the rifle mechanically is sound just needs some love and tlc. i thought it would just need a rail instead of the groove....

 

he going to bring it down in the next few days, so i'll post some pics on it then you can see for yourself, what the condition is like.

 

i bet id end up keeping it, i do love the 77, bye bye lightning hahaha

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

Mate, from what you've described, its scrap.

 

As has been said, on top of all the faults you've listed there will be other expense. If its anything more than free then you've been robbed......

 

Cheers.

 

its mechanically sound though, otherwise i wouldnt have shown interest in it. just needs some love

[andyfr1968 772]

To put it into perspective a mate of mine paid £150 for a very tidy HW90 last year with a top line Nikko scope....

 

£120 for a basket case 77 is heavy money, mate.

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

To put it into perspective a mate of mine paid £150 for a very tidy HW90 last year with a top line Nikko scope....

 

£120 for a basket case 77 is heavy money, mate.

 

ive got a mountmaster to attatch to it

 

unless i keep it, your probs right for it being a waste of time and money. but i do see 77s on guntrader for 275, top end 300+

 

also off topic i saw a bsa lightning XL exactly the same as mine for FIVE HUNDERED AND FIFTY FIVE POUNDS!!!

[moxy 617]

You saw an xl for five fifty, maybe you did. Was it in top condition as yours, maybe yours was in better condiition worth probably £6 - 700

 

Somethings only worth what your willing to pay for it.

 

The lads off this forum have offered good advice of which you had asked, but instantaniously you have the solutionns.

 

You have priced up all the broken and missing parts for a snitch, on a sunday? To make your buy worth while.

 

Why ask for advice if you have already made up your mind?

 

My bet is that its for sale soon on here, in mint condition for £550

 

Trust is wearing a little thin on here at the moment, dont piss up your own back

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

You saw an xl for five fifty, maybe you did. Was it in top condition as yours, maybe yours was in better condiition worth probably £6 - 700

 

Somethings only worth what your willing to pay for it.

 

The lads off this forum have offered good advice of which you had asked, but instantaniously you have the solutionns.

 

You have priced up all the broken and missing parts for a snitch, on a sunday? To make your buy worth while.

 

Why ask for advice if you have already made up your mind?

 

My bet is that its for sale soon on here, in mint condition for £550

 

Trust is wearing a little thin on here at the moment, dont piss up your own back

 

Priced up using this shop

 

http://www.gunspares.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=24571&cat=HW77

 

all in all about an extra 100 to bring it up to scratch....is it going to be worth it? i dont know.

 

what do you mean by piss up my own back? i read everyones replies, some dont think its worth it some do, upto me to take the risk really. just wanted input thats all.....

[pianoman 3,587]

Sean...

Restoring a gun is all well and good if it is financially viable; just needs a bit of cosmetic clean-up or, the gun is a rare, one-of-a-kind model. But if this is a basket case HW77, you might as well save up your cash and buy a new one. For what's the price to buy plus rebluing (don't paint the thing, it never looks right unless it's done properly) plus spares, refurbing the stock properly and God knows how many hours graft you need to put in, you'll have paid new gun money for a done-up job that still may not perform as good and certainly won't look as good if it's a bish, bash, bosh job.

 

reading between the lines, this HW77 sounds in pretty poor fettle. And you still haven't explained the situation with the scope rail. Why, do you need a Picatinny rail or something?

 

Simon

[TheYorkshireHunter 2]

Sean...

Restoring a gun is all well and good if it is financially viable; just needs a bit of cosmetic clean-up or, the gun is a rare, one-of-a-kind model. But if this is a basket case HW77, you might as well save up your cash and buy a new one. For what's the price to buy plus rebluing (don't paint the thing, it never looks right unless it's done properly) plus spares, refurbing the stock properly and God knows how many hours graft you need to put in, you'll have paid new gun money for a done-up job that still may not perform as good and certainly won't look as good if it's a bish, bash, bosh job.

 

reading between the lines, this HW77 sounds in pretty poor fettle. And you still haven't explained the situation with the scope rail. Why, do you need a Picatinny rail or something?

 

Simon

 

he wants more money now, so i told him where to shove it.

i told him it wasnt worth the 120, so in his good bargining he said he wanted more, pointless really its been sat in his shed for like 5 years, i got my BSA to go hunting with him and hes just a let down. so i thought i might aswell have the 77.

 

the metal work was down to the bare arse, so bluing would have taken an age, the rail was only cos i thought it would have been better than the 2 grooves

 

oh well, nevermind i'll just steal it one day.

 

:boogie: :boogie:

[just jack 998]

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[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

When I get in from work I will post a step by step guide to tuning and rebuilding one