bendrover 556 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 no offence intended pal,but it seems you lot(english)think you always have the best in most things. an example being....a thread can go up about running hares in scotland ,ireland etc.next thing we get is bring your dogs down the fens,can our dog stay 6 mins .but one thing i always hear whilst on holiday.ARE YOU ENGLISH,NO I REPLY IM SCOTTISH.THEN I GET A FREINDLY WELCOME wonder why. Well no offence intended back pal.....but the harsh reality is,we do have the best in most things !....or should we lie just to make you feel better,this is a far higher populated country its quite natural really,but that dont mean we have to creep about on tip toes and not tell the truth so as not to offend yous....im not talking about dogs or friendly welcomes im talking about football its not a psycology debate,just a simple debate about football no need to get too deep no offence taken pal,ok football only.how come this great footballing nation of yours ,does NOT win euros and world cups regularly.so your NOT the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) no offence taken pal,ok football only.how come this great footballing nation of yours ,does NOT win euros and world cups regularly.so your NOT the best If your going to debate something you need to pay attention.....where did i say England was the best,where did i say England was a great footballing nation,the debate was between English and Scottish football not Europe or the World. The standard of football in England is far higher than the standard of football in Scotland...that was the point and it was a very simple one. Edited May 25, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 no offence taken pal,ok football only.how come this great footballing nation of yours ,does NOT win euros and world cups regularly.so your NOT the best If your going to debate something you need to pay attention.....where did i say England was the best,where did i say England was a great footballing nation,the debate was between English and Scottish football not Europe or the World. The standard of football in England is far higher than the standard of football in Scotland...that was the point and it was a very simple one. You said it here gnash... Lets not close our eyes to it,you have 2 clubs up there who could possibly hold their own in the Englsih premier league....and the English premier league whether you like it or not is possibly the strongest league in world football......if the fact ive dared to say that makes me arrogant then i think your problem is your own. I know you use the word strongest instead of best but let's not split hairs. It isn't even the strongest as I proved by pointing out only 3 clubs have won the league in the last 15 years compared to spains 5. English teams have won the cl 3 times also in that time whilst the weaker Spanish 5 times. But hey, as you've prved before, why let facts get in the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) You said it here gnash... Lets not close our eyes to it,you have 2 clubs up there who could possibly hold their own in the Englsih premier league....and the English premier league whether you like it or not is possibly the strongest league in world football......if the fact ive dared to say that makes me arrogant then i think your problem is your own. I know you use the word strongest instead of best but let's not split hairs. It isn't even the strongest as I proved by pointing out only 3 clubs have won the league in the last 15 years compared to spains 5. English teams have won the cl 3 times also in that time whilst the weaker Spanish 5 times. But hey, as you've prved before, why let facts get in the way. Well as it happens i was talking about best as in England/Scotland in reply to the fella....not best as in best in the world.....read back over my reply to the other chap it will make sense then. Baw you are talking strongest in relation to how many different clubs can win it,im talking about best in relation to the 20 clubs in the league,i say again....i make our mid and lower league far superior to near any other country in the world,add to that the fact we virtually every year have at least 1 club reach the semis of the champions league....id say thats good argument to say over the whole league ( not just the top few clubs who win it ) we have possibly the strongest league in the world. Edited May 25, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Spain are currently the holders of the world cup, they have had 5 different Spanish clubs win there league in the last 15 years, they have won the CL 5 times in 15 years and could make that 6 come Saturday. The last time barcalona met man u in the final 2 years ago they bet them and you STILL think your leagues stronger Don't bother replying gnash, you just can't beat that level of arrogance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Spain are currently the holders of the world cup, they have had 5 different Spanish clubs win there league in the last 15 years, they have won the CL 5 times in 15 years and could make that 6 come Saturday. The last time barcalona met man u in the final 2 years ago they bet them and you STILL think your leagues stronger Don't bother replying gnash, you just can't beat that level of arrogance. What you talking about national football for we are talking about what LEAGUE is the strongest To use your theory of different clubs making for a stronger league.... England have had 4 DIFFERENT clubs in the champions league final in the last 7 years,Man Utd,Chelsea,Arsenal and Liverpool......Spain have had 1,Barcelona......of those 7 years England have had a representative in 6 of the 7 finals.....Spain have had a representative in 3 including this year. Now tell me.....am i telling the truth or being arrogant ? surely its not possible to do both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Aye, when it comes to losing, your the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Aye, when it comes to losing, your the best. Coming from a lover of the mighty Scottish Premier League........thats almost funny ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Aye, when it comes to losing, your the best. Coming from a lover of the mighty Scottish Premier League........thats almost funny ! You said earlier you were a purist and then jumped down my throat when I pointed out how bad your team was, what were you meant to do, support man u? Well, I'm Scottish and my local team was Celtic. They might not play in the best league but they play in our league. I love Scottish football and dislike English football. You struggle to accept that for some arrogant reason. Oh well..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) You said earlier you were a purist and then jumped down my throat when I pointed out how bad your team was, what were you meant to do, support man u? Well, I'm Scottish and my local team was Celtic. They might not play in the best league but they play in our league. I love Scottish football and dislike English football. You struggle to accept that for some arrogant reason. Oh well..... You seem to struggle with the fact that being a purist,and being loyal are two completely different things......not connected in any single way What gets me with folk like you is you claim to love Scottish football and dislike English football.....yet by the sound of it all you ever seem to watch is English football.....i dislike Scottish football,which is the reason i dont generally watch it and dont usually have much to say about it....yet you seem to have plenty to say about English football and none of it good......you speak with a split tongue Baw.....if you see telling the truth as being arrogant then i guess that tells its own story. Edited May 25, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendrover 556 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 You said earlier you were a purist and then jumped down my throat when I pointed out how bad your team was, what were you meant to do, support man u? Well, I'm Scottish and my local team was Celtic. They might not play in the best league but they play in our league. I love Scottish football and dislike English football. You struggle to accept that for some arrogant reason. Oh well..... You seem to struggle with the fact that being a purist,and being loyal are two completely different things......not connected in any single way What gets me with folk like you is you claim to love Scottish football and dislike English football.....yet by the sound of it all you ever seem to watch is English football.....i dislike Scottish football,which is the reason i dont generally watch it and dont usually have much to say about it....yet you seem to have plenty to say about English football and none of it good......you speak with a split tongue Baw.....if you see telling the truth as being arrogant then i guess that tells its own story. gnasher you have plenty to say regards a league(scottish)BUT you dislike it maybee my statement about international football will have some relavence in a couple of seasons,i beleive there will be 7 players who must be of the nationality to the league they are playing in.i think the spanish will be quids in then,as if they wernt already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) gnasher you have plenty to say regards a league(scottish)BUT you dislike it maybee my statement about international football will have some relavence in a couple of seasons,i beleive there will be 7 players who must be of the nationality to the league they are playing in.i think the spanish will be quids in then,as if they wernt already I dont have plenty to say about it other than its shit,you know that i know that so does anyone who follows football.....so thats 1 thing not plenty ....your jumping about all over the place from English/Scottish leagues to English/Spanish leagues to International football.....the trouble with you jocks is you dont seem capable of talking about football without bringing England into it....and its never good....Clearly yous have a chip on your shoulders about English football. As regards the 7 players thing,i cant wait and have been shouting for it for many years as it would suit my own club,why will the Spanish be quids in,dont tell me.....they dont have foreign players in Spain do they the 2 greatest players in the world might play in Spain mate but there not Spanish Edited May 26, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 scottish football is crap the maj of time,id much rather watch english football.as i suspect does many scottish lads.my opinion there is no way rangers or celtic would go down south and compete straight away.ive always said aswell,why should england welcome the big two up here with open arms.i see no reason why they should.thats just my take on it as i see it.but ive been brought up with scottish football,not the greatest these days,but its all we got and tbh ive watched amateuer games over the park that were better than some games up here.at the end of the day no reason to fall out over a team or a leaugue it is what it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Let me get this right gnash, us jocks can't stop talking about england but here you are once again on a Scottish football thread bringing down Scottish teams. You did the same on the auld firm thread. You also admit you don't watch Scottish football but everyone in football knows it's shit. You ever thought of thinking for yourself like I am? Is it just Scottish football your an expert on or is there something else you'll argue about even though you know f**k all about it? Yea, I watch English football, I watch a lot of shit on the Telly when there is nothing else on. I wouldn't voice an opinion on it if I didn't, that would just make me look like a fool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 scottish football is crap the maj of time,id much rather watch english football.as i suspect does many scottish lads.my opinion there is no way rangers or celtic would go down south and compete straight away.ive always said aswell,why should england welcome the big two up here with open arms.i see no reason why they should.thats just my take on it as i see it.but ive been brought up with scottish football,not the greatest these days,but its all we got and tbh ive watched amateuer games over the park that were better than some games up here.at the end of the day no reason to fall out over a team or a leaugue it is what it is Aye but Scot mate your a rangers fan and use love the english that much you want to be them............... Joking aside you cant really disagree with what you've said... Unfortunately most of it is true and yes i'd rather watch an english game than a St johnstone v Motherwell anytime.... But i still maintain if we were allowed into the leagues in England then 5 years down the line we would be premiership class......who knows for certain?... Not just English leagues either, if they made some kind of European league then that would still be great....only factor there is away games and it would be very very costly to follow your team... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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