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[Simoman 110]

I know yous wont believe me but he is jus not. intetested he wasnt before at all and isnt now. Am still gona constantly bray it into him but im happy with him.

 

 

Adam, i believe you believe he isn't interested but although we can't read a dogs mind i'd bet stabbas left testicle that the dog has mutton in his mind when near sheep, especially so soon after killing one. The dog needs flooding with sheep contact or at some point, when returning out of sight of just "pepped" up he will do it again, and tbh either you have very forgiving farmers, dont want to put the effort in or are doing an ostrich and burying your head in the sand, regardless its your dog and at the end of the day your problem

[lurcher330 2,301]

you can not say after a few days that he is alright now .get rid of your lurcher and get a hamster before you cause more damage ye pleb

[iworkwhippets 12,628]

A good dog man should be able to read his dogs mind, especially around livestock

[steve123 29]

your main problems are going to be if your dog starts working and misses then comes across a lamb or if he gets out on his own or if he is running with another dog, its not that hard to get him trained as hes walking by your side, you need to think about the sheep your walking with pretty stressful dont you think for them after what happend a few days ago. your dog can get better but i dont think will be 100% around sheep if your not there, good luck but dont get complacent.

cheers

[atomo 19]

The pup was steady as any thing its been with my sheep all the time since young ive got pictures of it licking lambs noses u fukin pricks. He had jus been watching other dogs chase deer and the influence of other dog what caused it. I know i can turn this dog from this is was an over excited mistake, ive spenr every day with. Him since fifteen weeks i know my dog. He is a very vert game dog with lots of drive, i will channel this drive onto game and make sure i break him to stock, if i fail i will do the right thing.

i dont run dogs but i do know allot of people that do and have done so for many years i have been around these people since i was born and what i do know is what they have told me they said most dogs that have run deer or in your case seen dogs running deer seem to go untrust worthy around stock i dont no why as i dont run dogs but what i would say is dont run deer if you dont want it to go for stock i may been wrong i dont know as i dont run dogs but thats just what ive been told so dont want no bitching or cat fighting like a woman as i dont realy know but trust the people who have told me 100%

 

as for the nob heads who were saying the fella doesnt have a clue about running dogs so therefore shouldnt have run the dog or attempted to run the dog. i th ink your taking the p..s because we all have to start some where and not all of use are fortunate enough to know peole who will teach use the way so there fore have to teach them selves and learn from there mistakes , you dont learn to walk without falling

 

keep working on the dog mate but never trust a dog with live stock all i can say is this is your first dog dont let some no it all smart arse change your view on things a dog is not human therefore shouldnt be treated like one and a dog once it kills something its in it forever but you never know just keep it on a lead and make sure no negitive behaviour towards stock is allowed to get away with

 

good luck all the best and learn from your mastake weve all had them its just weather you learn from them ,dont make the same mistake twice

atomo

Edited May 18, 2011 by atomo

[atomo 19]

just read the rest f the post and no way is that dog not intrested in taking sheep after takeing one ,take a step back mate look at what your dog is thinking dogs dont just stop behaving a certain way until you change them you need to sort this dog out and stop pulling the wool over your eyes , sort it youve got a second chace as its still only a pup and can be change do not let this pass by otherwise it will just be another shit dog that the owner didnt want to put time in to correct it

[Guest big e]

Wrong topic my heads away

Edited May 18, 2011 by big e

[jf1970 328]

Back to topic I'd two springers 18 yrs ago excellent bushing dogs put out foxes rabbits etc loved the way they worked haven't had a bushing dog for years iv booked a wee Russell pup gonna give it a go next year couldn't fault a springer for work but just wanna try something not so hyper

what topic are you on, infact more to the point, what fecking planet you on WRONG TOPIC.

[Guest big e]

Heads lit need to stay off the drink mate I'm getting worse lol

[jf1970 328]

Heads lit need to stay off the drink mate I'm getting worse lol

:laugh: no bother mate.

[Cold Ethyl 63]

Adam you come across as someone totally dedicted to his dog and you clearly love your dog and want to work and turn this around.Please take the advice being given (well some of it) Keep the dog on a lead a long one and drum it into him for months before you even consider letting him loose again

[MOO 730]

iF A DEER DOG IS STOCK BROKEN PROPERLY THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOVER IN ANY SITUATION REGARDING LIVESTOCK

[Saluki bull grey 5]

My dog killed a sheep at the young age of 10 month. He missed a rabbit and on his return took 1 down, 2 years down the line and hes never even chased 1 again, because of the simple reason hes never been back of the lead near sheep

[atomo 19]

iF A DEER DOG IS STOCK BROKEN PROPERLY THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOVER IN ANY SITUATION REGARDING LIVESTOCK

ino mate thats what i think but ive just been told that they tend to change once there on deer but by all means every working dog should be stock broke

[baw 4,360]

Adam, you put a thread up asking for advice and unless I missed the post where you've been advised to let your dog loose amongst sheep and hope for the best, you've pretty much ignored everyone and done the worst thing you could have done. The mere fact you think the dogs sound now speaks volumes. No point in advising you cos you won't listen and as sure as night follows day, that dog will kill again and be sold to some poor shmuck.

 

As for all the 'advisers' how many of you have had a dog that's killed a sheep nevermind managed to cure it? It's easy to type syntax on a computer when your not responsible for the outcome. I had a young dog recently do it, not once but 3 times. The dog is now in a shallow grave and quite rightly so. With hindsight I should have done it after the first but life ain't that easy. Main dog picking up a serious injury catapulted the young dog as provider. A lot of white hares about and deer doesn't help. Teaching the basics midseason and at a critical time in a dogs progression is easy to say but harder to implement. I've never experienced it before with a dog always preferring prevention rather than a cure. If I experience it again I won't be giving it 3 chances that's for sure. Lucky for me the farmer is an old friend but this is peoples livlihoods we are talking about. I'm not saying that it's impossible but up here it's hard to go anywhere without sheep etc and if you can't fully trust the dog, where is the fun in that?