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[ferreterlez 17]

i wouldnt hesitate i would of gone home got the gun and shot him once he has tasted the blood he will always do it mate sorry this may seem harsh but thats the only qure

 

regards the killing you could be right, its a shame really because you have let him see stock , as you said with control. But where alot of people go wrong, is with lambs, because most dogs that have been broke to (sheep) prob aint seen many lambs. Lambs can feck your dog up regards stock breaking, they look differnt, move differnt, and will really excite a young dog. . If next time you have a pup, try took keep it on the lead all the while, and try to get to sse as many lambs as poss. Once it knows these are a no go as well as sheep, you are 1/2 there .I take my dogs every day see sheep, even though there are steady with them. But i dont trust any dog 100% with sheep+lambs, domesticed or not they would kill if they had the chance

 

Sensible post from bird,when you think a young dog is stock broken then start again when lambs are about,until a dog as been amongst running sheep and lambs and as ignored them,then don't trust it,young dogs are easily influenced by the actions of another dog and will pick up good and bad habits from them.Id take the dog back through a training regime around sheep and lambs,on its own,id also train the terrier as well,dont let them out of your control until they totally ignore stock,you may have to be hard on them in the training process but it would be a better option than culling or passing the problem on.A lot of us have had problems at one time or another with dogs and stock so don't panic,learn from your mistake and move on.

alrite mate i had simlar problon with 1 of my pups but shoch collar sorted her out. good luck with yours

[rocky1 942]

haven,t read most of it adam ,but you got 4 options realy ,1st it harsh but put the dog 2 sleep ,option 2 only work the dog on fields with no livestock example crops ,option3 pethome but fill the new owner in on whats happened,option4 go back 2 basics from 6 weeks old but with a muzzle on and shock coller ,but i tell the truth i don,t think it will ever be the same again

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

Well maybe hes willing to try and put enough effort and time in to fix the solution rather than saying f**k it and having done with it either by shooting it or pts at a vets.Facts are the dogs young enough to re learn and yes your right probs was his fault for letting the dog get to that level of excitement in the first place but listen to yourself really here.You never made any mistakes with your dog? So what if i have to watch not muzzle watch my dog round strange people at least i know he will never be stolen or wander off with a stranger.I muzzle my dog cos of dog is where i live all off lead bouncing up barking and going mad and he doesnt like it.At least unlike most im trying to prevent a bad fight occuring or someone else too stupid to care enough to be careful with their dogs from getting hurt.Some people on here need to take a good hard look you jump down everyones throat for every little thing he asked for sensible advice not a f*****g mob ffs.

 

Whilst I admire your sentiment Ethyl. The time for sentiment has passed, what is needed is cold hard facts. People come on a forum and ask advice and it always seems to be after the fact. Would it not be better if people took the time to learn how to prevent such events taking place in the first place?

 

Obviously, he has not a clue on how to stock break a dog. But, instead of asking for advice he just takes the dog out and once it had chased the sheep, he let it off the lead to chase them again with the consequence of the lamb being killed. I was always taught that you are responsible for your own actions.

 

And yes when I was very young I had a dog that would kill sheep. All the above remedies were tried, they worked to a certain degree but she could never be trusted around livestock of any kind. And when she killed a piglet in front of a farmer I am afraid that was her last. It was a very hard lesson to learn but, it has stood me in good stead for the last 45 years.

 

I do not believe in getting personnel but, you seem to have a big heart and I think it rules your head somewhat. To own a dog you have to try and think like a dog. Dogs do not think like humans they think like dogs, the sooner people cotton on to that, the better their dogs lives will be.

 

I am not normally so critical but it does wind me up somewhat when people get dogs and do not take on the responsibility of training the dogs properly. No one is born knowing how to train a dog it has to be learnt. It is incumbent of you when you do get a dog, to teach the dog what is acceptable and what is not. If you are not willing to learn how to do this then don't get a dog.

 

TC

Edited May 15, 2011 by tiercel

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

 

Well maybe hes willing to try and put enough effort and time in to fix the solution rather than saying f**k it and having done with it either by shooting it or pts at a vets.Facts are the dogs young enough to re learn and yes your right probs was his fault for letting the dog get to that level of excitement in the first place but listen to yourself really here.You never made any mistakes with your dog? So what if i have to watch not muzzle watch my dog round strange people at least i know he will never be stolen or wander off with a stranger.I muzzle my dog cos of dog is where i live all off lead bouncing up barking and going mad and he doesnt like it.At least unlike most im trying to prevent a bad fight occuring or someone else too stupid to care enough to be careful with their dogs from getting hurt.Some people on here need to take a good hard look you jump down everyones throat for every little thing he asked for sensible advice not a f*****g mob ffs.

 

Whilst I admire your sentiment Ethyl. The time for sentiment has passed, what is needed is cold hard facts. People come on a forum and ask advice and it always seems to be after the fact. Would it not be better if people took the time to learn how to prevent such events taking place in the first place?

 

Obviously, he has not a clue on how to stock break a dog. But, instead of asking for advice he just takes the dog out and once it had chased the sheep, he let it off the lead to chase them again with the consequence of the lamb being killed. I was always taught that you are responsible for your own actions.

 

And yes when I was very young I had a dog that would kill sheep. All the above remedies were tried, they worked to a certain degree but she could never be trusted around livestock of any kind. And when she killed a piglet in front of a farmer I am afraid that was her last. It was a very hard lesson to learn but, it has stood me in good stead for the last 45 years.

 

I do not believe in getting personnel but, you seem to have a big heart and I think it rules your head somewhat. To own a dog you have to try and think like a dog. Dogs do not think like humans they think like dogs, the sooner people cotton on to that, the better their dogs lives will be.

 

I am not normally so critical but it does wind me up somewhat when people get dogs and do not take on the responsibility of training the dogs properly. No one is born knowing how to train a dog it has to be learnt. It is incumbent of you when you do get a dog, to teach the dog what is acceptable and what is not. If you are not willing to learn how to do this then don't get a dog.

 

TC

 

One of the most sensible things I've read on THL!

[Cold Ethyl 63]

No not sentiment mate true fact the dog may never be the same again but with the right approach it may be just fine.Its laziness and total lack of giving a f**k for the dog to pts at 9 and half months because it cannot be trained WTF.Im sorry but if you cant turn a dog round at that age then theres a problem.Id look closer to yourself if you have to resort to this mince tbh.Hes starting out where you 100% perfect and knowledgable when you first started never had to ask for help or advice knew exactly what to do in every situation.Short answer is none of did and always had people we call on for advice

[Cold Ethyl 63]

I may have a big heart and am somewhat softer on my dogs than some are on theirs.They know who the boss is and they accept it well.He may have not thought it all through 1rst but how do they ever learn if theyre not given good sound advice.Giving up at the first hurdle is for cowards in my opinion persevering providing it can be done safely is a better thing to be teaching people tbh.

[rocky1 942]

I may have a big heart and am somewhat softer on my dogs than some are on theirs.They know who the boss is and they accept it well.He may have not thought it all through 1rst but how do they ever learn if theyre not given good sound advice.Giving up at the first hurdle is for cowards in my opinion persevering providing it can be done safely is a better thing to be teaching people tbh.

that softes might 1 day bite you in the arse ,hope it dose,nt

[jigsaw 11,897]

''Well maybe hes willing to try and put enough effort and time in to fix the solution''

 

He obviously hasnt done enough so far to have it stock steady so i dont think he'll manage such a mammoth task.

Im not into critisising people,we all have our own ways of doing things and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt,but if the chap had concentrated on breaking the dog to stock BEFORE it was ever encouraged to hunt and catch another animal.Just make it plainly obvious under no circumstances to the dog that stock chasing will be tolerated,if you have to inflict a belt or two to get your point across then so be it,its past worrying about the dogs feelings.Get him sorted and if the shock collar works then zap the shite out of him.If your still unsure of his intentions,you know what needs to be done.What makes me scratch my head and wonder is its the easiest thing in the world to stock break a PUP,start when they are diminutive,let them get bullied by the sheep and their owners,it soon sinks in double quick.

Edited May 15, 2011 by jigsaw

[running addiction 207]

bad situation this 1 but the dog is still only very young the lad made a mistake by letting it off the lead again but should learn from this if it was me it would be back to bacis take it out on its own keep it on the lead get yourself a little whippy stick if it even looks at 1 scorch it few weeks of this then the long lead go from there with it being a pup it deserves a second chance good luck hope you make the right decision

[lurcher330 2,301]

dog whisperer the only way

[adamb20 22]

The dog has been walked through sheep and lambs since fifteen weeks i have my own, he has never shown signs of it before i think it was because the terrier was there and jealousy got him carried away. Il go back to basics and give him one more chance. There are some bell ends on here

[J.DOG 1,355]

Lol

[DogMagic 461]

And here are todays selection of retarded c**ts!

 

 

Shoot it! Then it will never chase kill a sheep again. Passing it on to a pet home will not stop it killing sheep.

 

TC

 

 

i wouldnt hesitate i would of gone home got the gun and shot him once he has tasted the blood he will always do it mate sorry this may seem harsh but thats the only qure

 

 

How can anybody be so f*****g idiotic?! Shoot a dog for one mistake. Sensible people have given good advice on this thread mate, just ignore this couple of spastics.

[Simoman 110]

Put a shock collar on the dog and zap it a few times.That will put the idea right out of its head.

 

will try it mate, me mates got one.

 

 

Unless you are experienced and have excellent timing you using an electric collar will f**k up your problem ten fold, my advice would be go back to basics, DON'T allow the dog anywhere near sheep off the lead, the warning sign was the dog messing around, you failed to act quick enough which resulted in Larry the lamb becoming a kebab and after the dog has killed a sheep its makes it 100 times worse. Like i say forget the collar and go back to basics, my young dog was steady but one day a flock ran and he chased them for 20 yards before recalling, that was my cue to return to basics and drill it into him again..........

[adamb20 22]

Oh right, i never realised that playing with them was the build up to this i thought that would be al he would do. Ok back to basics and il make sure he gets the idea this time.