judgeing lurchers at shows

[rocky1 942]

on one of the only twice i showed my dogs it was at pon top pike few year ago i took my old bull cross fred granted he was marked up but i was told by a steward that i should not have entered my dog as his scars were going to have people talking i pointed out that its a working lurcher terrier show and entered my dog any way honestly it was a joke what won the class the dog looked nowt like any bullx ive ever seen or most others their judging by peoples reactioms no disrespect to what did win after the show me old mate who with me said to me that the judge stated to him he knocked me dog as it had to many scars to which my mate said you prick its bullx class working lurchers not fcking crufts cheers mick need less to say never went again

[bANNED TEXT] year was that?

not sure of year pall but tony and elaine their and it was tony who said my dog shouldnt be at show as his face was all scared up late 1990s me mick kipper sean the lot of us their was only second and last time ever went mate just laterly was telling me good pall pinky about why i dont go shows

is that tony and elaine ,if so elaine judge the lurchers this year, her and her son thomas also done the lurchers ,their were some lads that wer,nt very happy with both of them

[sandymere 8,263]

I went to a working terrier and lurcher show today for something different to do, it was good to see that there are a good amount of nice looking dogs in my area, the judge seemed fair i got a third place for my dog..... out of 3! But it is all about not taking it too seriously..... I just need to get hold of that judges address so I can go chuck bog roll all over his house the b*****d!!!! Can't wait for the next show I'm gonna take some potatoes to stuff up judges exhaust pipe!!!

Stevenstone?

[mattyg 1,862]

rosettes dont catch rabbits although that dosnt stop me putting mine in the odd show for a bit of FUN!

my mutts dont have many rosettes and they dont catch many rabbits either :icon_redface:hehehehe

matt

[morton 5,368]

The main trouble with judging a show is all the entrants genuinely believe their dog was better than the winner,then all the bitching starts.ive judged a few lurchers and the biggest problem i found was the poor condition of a lot of the dogs,no matter what they looked like from outside the ring.I judged Blanchland a couple of years ago and was disgusted with the condition of some,i gave the best in show to Church's bullcross,i don't like bullcrosses but on the day itwas that or a little rough bitch,i really would have liked to have given the shield to the little one,but i went with what i thought would have been the better option in the field.Stobbard asked me to judge a bullcross class at another show the year after,i gave 1st,2nd and 3rd to the only dogs out of about 20 that felt and looked like they worked.If you cannot gracefully accept a judges verdict,right or wrong then don't enter.

the dogs that looked and felt like they work?

just bye touch alone how can you tell a dog works when you judge it in the middle of summer?

do you know a secret I dont? some kind of wart or mole given to workers by the lord?

An adult lurcher that as seen acouple of seasons work,especially bull crosses,will normally carry a certain amount of wear and tear,some a little over obvious.A dog underweight,out of condition,flat footed with long toenails,full of fleas and worms are another clue.A dog in good condition,showing signs of a working life,being held by an owner who comes out with the right answers will get the nod from me.

[birddog 1,354]

ive judged a few times over the years always been honest even put up crosses that im not a fan of but they were on the day in my opinion the best, ive gave everyone a fair crack at the whip and spoken to all owner / handlers. at a recent show which was a great day, lots of crack, many old pals, the odd bargain or two at the stalls etc my 13year old entered a genuine working bitch and came out of the ring with a rossette but was really dissapointed, the judge hadn't said a word to him, didn't ask the dogs name, age or breeding, didn't look at the dogs mouth or teeth, didn't look at toes or feet. i'm all for shows lets have a bit of fun, some banter, meet friends old and new but for some guys who have travelled a long way surely the organisers can get somebody who even if their not that good at the job can at least pretend that they know what their about.

[boyo 1,398]

ive judged quite a lot of shows over the years and can honestly say not one person has admitted that their lurcher doesnt work but ime grown up enough to take what they tell me about their dog with a pinch of salt and judge purely whats in front of me on the day .and as i said earlier there is no way in the world you can tell if a dog works by looking at it .

[birddog 1,354]

ive judged quite a lot of shows over the years and can honestly say not one person has admitted that their lurcher doesnt work but ime grown up enough to take what they tell me about their dog with a pinch of salt and judge purely whats in front of me on the day .and as i said earlier there is no way in the world you can tell if a dog works by looking at it .

 

not quite so sure mate, many working dogs have bust toes, ruptured tendons, maybe a dropped muscle, the odd scar especially around the ears and in my experience a lot of real, good working dogs have an aura about them almost looking down on lesser dogs, and some of mine are really peeved at having to ponce about at a stupid show when their minds are obviously far away on more important matters. i'd rather sell a puppy to a good honest knowledgable show home than to a messer working home where the pup would be ruined by 8 month old and moved on to end god knows where.

[boyo 1,398]

birddog gotta agree with you on the good home comment but most of the injuries you mentioned they can get just running round without ever working mind you like i said if you ask the owners every dog in a show is a working lurcher .lol.

[Snifferboy 659]

I went to a working terrier and lurcher show today for something different to do, it was good to see that there are a good amount of nice looking dogs in my area, the judge seemed fair i got a third place for my dog..... out of 3! But it is all about not taking it too seriously..... I just need to get hold of that judges address so I can go chuck bog roll all over his house the b*****d!!!! Can't wait for the next show I'm gonna take some potatoes to stuff up judges exhaust pipe!!!

Stevenstone?

Yeah mate, it was very pleasant don't you think?

[coney clucky 93]

on one of the only twice i showed my dogs it was at pon top pike few year ago i took my old bull cross fred granted he was marked up but i was told by a steward that i should not have entered my dog as his scars were going to have people talking i pointed out that its a working lurcher terrier show and entered my dog any way honestly it was a joke what won the class the dog looked nowt like any bullx ive ever seen or most others their judging by peoples reactioms no disrespect to what did win after the show me old mate who with me said to me that the judge stated to him he knocked me dog as it had to many scars to which my mate said you prick its bullx class working lurchers not fcking crufts cheers mick need less to say never went again

[bANNED TEXT] year was that?

not sure of year pall but tony and elaine their and it was tony who said my dog shouldnt be at show as his face was all scared up late 1990s me mick kipper sean the lot of us their was only second and last time ever went mate just laterly was telling me good pall pinky about why i dont go shows

is that tony and elaine ,if so elaine judge the lurchers this year, her and her son thomas also done the lurchers ,their were some lads that wer,nt very happy with both of them

[coney clucky 93]

yes rocky no dis respect to them but ive forgoten what they know about dogs mate tony been their had the t shirt talks a good dog mate but never had o newhat does elaine know only what tony told her in his latest book club mate if they judging shows now its came to right old sorry state

[rocky1 942]

yes rocky no dis respect to them but ive forgoten what they know about dogs mate tony been their had the t shirt talks a good dog mate but never had o newhat does elaine know only what tony told her in his latest book club mate if they judging shows now its came to right old sorry state

well tony was pissed as per,fcuk nose want the show organers were thinking leting their 18yearold son judge ffs ,he has,nt got a clue

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

well tony was pissed as per,fcuk nose want the show organers were thinking leting their 18yearold son judge ffs ,he has,nt got a clue

 

He will be as qualified as most

[rocky1 942]

your proberly right

[sandymere 8,263]

I went to a working terrier and lurcher show today for something different to do, it was good to see that there are a good amount of nice looking dogs in my area, the judge seemed fair i got a third place for my dog..... out of 3! But it is all about not taking it too seriously..... I just need to get hold of that judges address so I can go chuck bog roll all over his house the b*****d!!!! Can't wait for the next show I'm gonna take some potatoes to stuff up judges exhaust pipe!!!

Stevenstone?

Yeah mate, it was very pleasant don't you think?

 

It’s not a bad little show, shame they have no working class and a bull class would be nice as well. I was trying to remember a class of three and what dog came third. I have an idea of your dog as a young Merle beardy/beddy type?

Fun should be the idea, with a chance to see a few different dogs and have a chat with people. Judging is a matter of personal choice and what suits one will not suit another, but an honest judge will at least pick what they feel is the best although there are those that pick the owners rather then the dog as they know that the owner will be the judge at the next show. There is a tendency for the pony club element to take over and they seem to align themselves well with those who prefer to race their lurchers than work them but they are often the ones who are willing to take on the hassle to organise shows. It can be a bit of a shame when you do get a small clique that dominate local shows, judging and awarding amongst themselves and it is always refreshing when a judge is brought in from outside and upsets the apple cart a little. For youngsters with their first lurchers it can be disheartening for the dogs to get passed over at these shows and so they stop attending and this is a loss, I’ve been to a couple of shows this year and noticed two such people, both with tidy young lurchers, that have entered and not done well, on Sunday one attended but didn’t even enter and next year is unlikely to even attend. We should be encouraging these people.