judgeing lurchers at shows

[coney clucky 93]

I love shows there's nowt funnier that some fat prat in cammo gear prancing around the ring with his pride and joy half drunk then spitting the dummy out....priceless. You have to feel sorry for the judges though, no matter how honest they are there's always gonna be a lot of pissed of folk. Seen one guy approach a judge and offer him a square go cause he didn't get a place.

i went to shows mate thinking same as you but it wasnt fun to nany people taking what was i thought a bit fun deadly serious lot of slagging dogs and people of maybe at some shows its diffrent im not as some people say on here a moaning attention seeker id never been to shows and only took my scared up dog as i had aranged to stud him with a bitch after show and met the owner at the show any one on here who knows me will tell you im no attention seeker or moaning git just wasnt ezpecting the show seen to be so competitive or serious and judges to be so inconsistent

[shushycatcher 219]

i went to a show today and the judge picked working dogs,a rarity nowadays! I won my class with my bitch and then had to listen to second place mush moaning to his missus about my "scarred up"bitch winning!! Why go if yyou are gona moan if you lose! The judges decision is final,no matter whhat he/she picks! atb shushy.

[Snifferboy 659]

The judges job is a poison chalice,you are on a hiding to nothing from the start and the reason its so hard to find one,ask anyone who's put a show on the trouble they have finding a judge,hence the reason why you get inexperienced wannabe's doing it,nobody likes to take flak off fellow dog owner's for either a biased decision or a straight one,the fun element of these shows have been lost,going back 30yrs there was only one gamefair and no local terrier and lurcher shows,it is only as the dog's have become popular that these shows appeared,the Fell and Moorland ran the first show's I attended and it was as a fund raising excercise to claw back some of the money that was outlayed in the winter on some of the bigger rescue's,they were our only fallback and are still the only decent club worth joining or contributing to with genuine interest in the welfare of our dog's,anyone that remember's the massive shows that brought LLangollen to a standstill of a weekend will realise it was a great meeting place for old friends and new alike,it is only a bit of fun and not to be argued and fought over,go to the shows for the right reasons and enjoy the company of like minded lads that will be raising money for a good cause (normally) and if you don't enjoy it then you are there for the wrong reasons,remember your dog will always be the best in YOUR eye's,don't take the day too serious and you will meet some decent people and make new friends,you will get better quality judges coming forward when they stop taking too much stick,after all WOULD YOU DO IT ??? atb,wirralman

Thats a fair point

Edited May 15, 2011 by Snifferboy

[dennned 172]

If a rosette is that important then go buy a pedigree breed, a waistcoat, bow tie and start practicing your "ring mince" with what appears to be a barbed hook inserted in your anus.......

so delicatley put simon ---- but yes your spot on , ffs it's only fun, meeting old and new friends , much more fun----den

[morton 5,368]

The main trouble with judging a show is all the entrants genuinely believe their dog was better than the winner,then all the bitching starts.ive judged a few lurchers and the biggest problem i found was the poor condition of a lot of the dogs,no matter what they looked like from outside the ring.I judged Blanchland a couple of years ago and was disgusted with the condition of some,i gave the best in show to Church's bullcross,i don't like bullcrosses but on the day itwas that or a little rough bitch,i really would have liked to have given the shield to the little one,but i went with what i thought would have been the better option in the field.Stobbard asked me to judge a bullcross class at another show the year after,i gave 1st,2nd and 3rd to the only dogs out of about 20 that felt and looked like they worked.If you cannot gracefully accept a judges verdict,right or wrong then don't enter.

[Snifferboy 659]

I went to a working terrier and lurcher show today for something different to do, it was good to see that there are a good amount of nice looking dogs in my area, the judge seemed fair i got a third place for my dog..... out of 3! But it is all about not taking it too seriously..... I just need to get hold of that judges address so I can go chuck bog roll all over his house the b*****d!!!! Can't wait for the next show I'm gonna take some potatoes to stuff up judges exhaust pipe!!!

[baldockbanks courser 598]

The main trouble with judging a show is all the entrants genuinely believe their dog was better than the winner,then all the bitching starts.ive judged a few lurchers and the biggest problem i found was the poor condition of a lot of the dogs,no matter what they looked like from outside the ring.I judged Blanchland a couple of years ago and was disgusted with the condition of some,i gave the best in show to Church's bullcross,i don't like bullcrosses but on the day itwas that or a little rough bitch,i really would have liked to have given the shield to the little one,but i went with what i thought would have been the better option in the field.Stobbard asked me to judge a bullcross class at another show the year after,i gave 1st,2nd and 3rd to the only dogs out of about 20 that felt and looked like they worked.If you cannot gracefully accept a judges verdict,right or wrong then don't enter.

the dogs that looked and felt like they work?

just bye touch alone how can you tell a dog works when you judge it in the middle of summer?

do you know a secret I dont? some kind of wart or mole given to workers by the lord?

[6pack 60]

I enjoy the shows.

Lurcher shows are not as serious as the Borzoi showing, but much more fun to win.

With no set standard and such variations around, it's all down to a judges personal preference. Unfortunately working ability can not be measured in a ring.

It's also a good opportunity and experience for the dogs.

[Boss-Hog 283]

bottom line judges DECISION IS FINAL

[foresterj 1,096]

I love shows there's nowt funnier that some fat prat in cammo gear prancing around the ring with his pride and joy half drunk then spitting the dummy out....priceless. You have to feel sorry for the judges though, no matter how honest they are there's always gonna be a lot of pissed of folk. Seen one guy approach a judge and offer him a square go cause he didn't get a place.

i went to shows mate thinking same as you but it wasnt fun to nany people taking what was i thought a bit fun deadly serious lot of slagging dogs and people of maybe at some shows its diffrent im not as some people say on here a moaning attention seeker id never been to shows and only took my scared up dog as i had aranged to stud him with a bitch after show and met the owner at the show any one on here who knows me will tell you im no attention seeker or moaning git just wasnt ezpecting the show seen to be so competitive or serious and judges to be so inconsistent

maybe judges use scars as an excuse,just didnt want to say ya dog had the conformation of a camel,bein polite?u didn say what year it was?

[boyo 1,398]

scars are and never have been a sign that your dog works and there is no way can you tell if a dog works or not by handling it in any way shape or form all you can judge it on is its conformation condition and looks and give an honest appraisal in your veiw on which are the three best dogs you have just looked at and examined .also they can look a whole lot differant outside the ring looking in to when you actually put your hands over them and check them out .

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

I can honestly say in my lifetime I have never been able to tell how a lurcher performs in the field by looking at it or feeling it. Scares mean nothing as to a dogs working standard especially if its not worked on quarry which bite back not all dogs are or should I say were!!! So what does that leave the judge to judge a working dog on? personel preference with looks and physical condition if its done honestly.

[weasle 1,119]

I can honestly say in my lifetime I have never been able to tell how a lurcher performs in the field by looking at it or feeling it. Scares mean nothing as to a dogs working standard especially if its not worked on quarry which bite back not all dogs are or should I say were!!! So what does that leave the judge to judge a working dog on? personel preference with looks and physical condition if its done honestly.

And

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

weasle that would not be honest

[coney clucky 93]

on one of the only twice i showed my dogs it was at pon top pike few year ago i took my old bull cross fred granted he was marked up but i was told by a steward that i should not have entered my dog as his scars were going to have people talking i pointed out that its a working lurcher terrier show and entered my dog any way honestly it was a joke what won the class the dog looked nowt like any bullx ive ever seen or most others their judging by peoples reactioms no disrespect to what did win after the show me old mate who with me said to me that the judge stated to him he knocked me dog as it had to many scars to which my mate said you prick its bullx class working lurchers not fcking crufts cheers mick need less to say never went again

[bANNED TEXT] year was that?

not sure of year pall but tony and elaine their and it was tony who said my dog shouldnt be at show as his face was all scared up late 1990s me mick kipper sean the lot of us their was only second and last time ever went mate just laterly was telling me good pall pinky about why i dont go shows