Aaron_butcher 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I've recenty bred one of my jills and she has had a litter of 8 kits. They are now about 6 weeks and I've noticed a few kits are deformed and a few others just don't look healthy. Out of the 8 there are I think 3 kits that have thier eyes open and look like they are doing well but 2 have deformed back legs and 3 just look very very skinny and still don't have opened eyes. I'm going to cull the deformed ones which I think is the best thing for them ( they are just dragging themselves around and one has one too many bends in his leg ). But should I should wait and see how the skinnier ones come on or cull them as well? They have raw mince fed in the evenings and fresh water available so it couldn't be malnutrition. I will try to get pics up tommorrow. Thanks, Aaron. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Out of interest mate, what were the jill and hob? Quote Link to post
Aaron_butcher 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 It wasn't silver to silver if thats what your thinking, it was polecat hob to albino jill, the deformed kits are both silvers but the under weight ones are white and brown. Quote Link to post
Guest alcapone Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Ive seen this before,i too was feeding mince! Spoke to a few lads and come to the conclusion that the mince was the problem! Cant remember the reason now,but im sure someone on here will tell you. I also had to cull,same age roughly too. Edited to say mine were also silvers! Edited May 10, 2011 by alcapone Quote Link to post
Aaron_butcher 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 its only the last week or so they've had mince, before that it was chicken wings but I thought I should give them some diversity in their diets. I just thought it odd that there are so many that aren't right but a handful that seem to be fit and healthy. Quote Link to post
Aaron_butcher 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Would that account for the ones that aren't silver though? and I thought that it was only silver to silver that caused problems. Quote Link to post
Guest alcapone Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Im far from someone to give much advise im no expert myself but i remember it was something to do with mince meat. I had 3 kits and one faded at 4wks old and the other 2 just dragged their back legs within the space of a couple of days they were good for nothing,would of been 6-7 wk old if i remember. I dont use mince anymore,thats all i can tell you im afraid. Some folk on here with loads of experience,im sure they will put you straight fella. Quote Link to post
Aaron_butcher 17 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Thanks for the advice mate but I'm pretty sure they would have been born with deformaties and feeding mince for a weed wouldn't cause their legs to kink in the wrong places, silvers have problems anyway. Its just the under weight ones I'm concerned about, I don't want to cull anymore than nessasery but they aren't looking good. Quote Link to post
Jamie m 668 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I had two silver kits In a litter last year and before there eyes had opens they both developed eye infections , but they were the bigest strongest kits in the litter? and the jill I kept back is a powerhouse she dwarfes my sniped hob and far from deaf and a demon at work ? Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 All i was saying about the silver gene is that is its a weak gene, a mutation, and whilst most common to cause problems silver x silver, it can be found in none silver ferrets, and when expressed in the litter can (not always) be expressed in other forms of mutation and deformity. Just life mate, not much you could have done. I'd cull whats needed and then not repeat that mating. Quote Link to post
The one 8,477 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Had this years ago its the mince it contains only protein no bones or muscle so the kits couldn't build a healthy bone structure . You could try a search but it's a fair age that post now 1 Quote Link to post
f mac 40 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 prob a bit late but if u can pick up an old hand mincer ideal for chick wings whole pigeons ,scraps ect rabbit legs ...perfect for mushing up for kits Quote Link to post
Guest alcapone Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Had this years ago its the mince it contains only protein no bones or muscle so the kits couldn't build a healthy bone structure . You could try a search but it's a fair age that post now My money was on the mince also. Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 try an get dog fod mince rather than human consumption mince as the stuff minced for dogs has grizzle, bone, an even feather an fur in it............. why cant they get fed whole carcass???? Quote Link to post
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