muzzle brake

[air gunner 0]

My friend has on his webley stingray a muzzle brake. What are the benefits of a muzzle brake on an air rifle? I have read that muzzle brakes reduce turbulence and muzzle flip, however in the case of spring or gas ram air rifles do they actually help in any way?

[SEAN3513 7]

only for the reasons you have mentioned

[air gunner 0]

Nice one, and they actually have a noticeable effect do you know? cheers

[SEAN3513 7]

not really.....but they look cool eh

[pianoman 3,587]

They look nicer than a plain muzzle end for a scope-only rifle but, Turbulence reduction? I know about muzzle flip with a recoiling spring rifle but, what does muzzle air turbulence actually feel like? I've been shooting air rifles more years than some of you have been on the planet and I don't know yet what air rifle muzzle turbulence could possibly be.

 

Someone care to explain what I cannot say I've ever felt?

 

Puzzled

 

Simon

[SEAN3513 7]

too small an effect to see or feel (on an air rifle).........bsa used to fit them to the scorpion t10 ??? why ??

 

 

because it looks better than a plain or screw cut barrel i guess

[ratattack 111]

Simply another way of conning people out of cash. they have a use on .50 snpier rifles but naff all on an airgun

[pianoman 3,587]

Hmmm. On military self-loading assault, battle and bolt action sniping rifles of all calbres, it is not a muzzle brake you see on the muzzles of these weapons, but a flash eliminator. It's designed to reduce the amount of ignition flash for nightfighting. Sniping rifles have very effective flash suppression shrouds. Remington 700 M40A1 has a very effective flash suppresion unit within its bull-barrel shroud.

 

The air muzzle turbulence story is a pile of shit. It doesn't exist. Not for air rifles or sniper weapons

 

Bet it was AIRGUNNER or AIRGUN WORLD magazine that came up with that bollocks. They love bullshit like that.

[Daz 7 563]

Nice one Simon,

 

I was also abit bemused with a muzzle brake and what people thought they actually did, As most of us Older Lads know the Airgun Mags are full of Shite!!!!!!.

Some of there so called Airgun Expert writers in my Opinion i wouldn't trust using a Gat Pistol.

 

regards Daz

[Webby1 34]

Nice one Simon,

 

I was also abit bemused with a muzzle brake and what people thought they actually did, As most of us Older Lads know the Airgun Mags are full of Shite!!!!!!.

Some of there so called Airgun Expert writers in my Opinion i wouldn't trust using a Gat Pistol.

 

regards Daz

Not even a SPUD gun lol

[air gunner 0]

cheers lads seems to me that it will be pointless on my gun, a quick google search came up with the turbulence theory so i thought id ask the true experts. the theory goes that the air behind the pellet is going faster than the pellet thus causing the so called "air turbulence" anyway after hearing your views I dont see its worth it on my bsa supersport not only because it doent have a use but i doubt it will look good on my gun. cheers lads

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi mate.

 

They told you WHAT?!!!

 

How can air, that is supposedly going faster than the pellet, get past it down the barrel and cause any degree of disruptive turbulence, when the skirt has been instantly blown into expansion and both it and the head is railing to commence spin on the rifling lands down the barrel?

 

Does the air fly ahead of the pellet and then, lie in wait to "Mug" it like a villain in an alleyway of turbulence as it finally wheezes out of the muzzle? Is PC Muzzle-Brake there to arrest the burly ruffian of turbulent air and let poor little pellet safely continue it's journey?

 

If that was so, the pellet would have to be too small to fit the bore by calibre and let air pass it in the gaps and be useless for remotely getting near the target, let alone with precision accuracy. In the event, both airblast and pellet then enters and exits a muzzle brake in a fraction of a micro-second, the air blast dissipates and the pellet speeds into the air beyond and on to the target.

 

If that turbulence theory was a true phenomenon for which a muzzle brake was the cure, EVERY air rifle would have a muzzle break as standard!

 

I don't think I have ever owned an air rifle with one fitted.

 

I'd say whoever came up with that one, is possibly in the muzzle-brake business or, an airgun journalist writing to win ad revenue from the man in the..you get the idea!

 

Once again. They make a barrel's muzzle-end look nice.

 

But that's all they do fella!

 

All the best.

 

Simon

Edited May 11, 2011 by pianoman

[air gunner 0]

nicely put, I knew its always best to check on here.

[markha 99]

Muzzlebreaks/flash hiders - designed for rifles and big cannons to do two things - direct the gasses from a spent cartridge in an opposing direction to the harmonic flip of the barrel, or so the theory goes. The other part is they hide muzzle flash a bit better.

 

As for air rifle muzzle flip in a springer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh6AASE6y9M&feature=related

[pianoman 3,587]

So not exactly relevant to an air rifle then Mark; this need to deflect exploding, position-revealing powder-fused cordite ignition gasses

 

And viewing the vid.

I see a small measure of air charging out ahead of the pellet and a blue dieselling smoke blast out of this rifle's muzzle..AFTER the pellet has left it behind.

 

That sort of confounds the idea that the air moves faster than the pellet and causes a physical turbulence problem for which a muzzle brake is intended to diffuse. Clearly a bit of the charge does, but nothing you'd think would cause the pellet to deflect in a turbulent wake.

 

There is a tiny degree of barrel-flex but that's a natural event of spring rifles that comes within the nature of springer recoil. Correct hold covers that.

 

Simon