scottish carper ingram 40 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram How old is it? How long have you had it? And have you had it since it was a puppy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,876 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 There is a simular post on this subject. { calling dog back )go have a read, may help you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish carper ingram 40 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram How old is it? How long have you had it? And have you had it since it was a puppy? 19month, had him about two month and no got him from a friend that no longer had space Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish carper ingram 40 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 There is a simular post on this subject. { calling dog back )go have a read, may help you cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mars 42 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Same Questions as borderscot....??? I wonder if it`s a Bull/Grey/Whippet thing cos mine gets a deaf head on him too...lol.. Though i did`nt get mine back until he was 4 years old, and the problem was already set by then, Mars... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boyo 1,398 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 got 2 youngsters here 13 and 14 months old that have been brilliant at coming back but last few weeks with young rabbits and more scent about got me pulling my frigging hair out really cocking a deaf un to me. but its patience patience patience ime afraid. mind you their testing mine i can tell you .lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 588 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Don't chase and call after them when they are doing this. Walk away or hide - they should soon come looking for you and when they do return, praise them ,even when you feel like cracking up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram A dog is programmed by his nature to respond to his inner pull to make contact with quarry through drive , its one of the strongest pulls in the animal kingdom, its worth £1,oooooo to the dog, a treat is worth about £1000, making a fuss about £500, When a dog is out sniffing round doing his own thing, what it is looking for is a scent that collates back to some scent is the past that triggered drive , scent of bunnies, fox, whatever has stimulated his drive in the past, because that ''s where he want to be , in DRIVE , When your mutt weights up the £1000 and the £500 treat VERSUS the winning the lottery treat, he can't respond to you, its going against everything that has been bred into running dogs for 1000's of years, But we can stimulate a dogs drive as well, its a lot harder in dogs who dont see their owner ,as a channel through which their drive can flow, and more than likely see the owner as a block to expressing prey drive, Working Collies are an example of a dog with high drive potential bred to chase and herd sheep, but since agility competitions such as flyball and such canine sports , collies can turn their hand to it, because it stimulates their prey drive, its the same with a running dog they can be stimulated to respond to you , via a tennis ball or stick if they see it as a mechinism through which prey drive can flow, you just need to get the dog's interest flowing , tease the dog at first and build up from there,, i would also encourage contact between between you, physical touch including jumping up(dont wear your good clothes)is vital , if a dog wants to make contact with me in whatever form it takes ,im happy, if the mutt gets a dig everytime he tries to make contact through his own free will, you have no idea what message your sending out to your dog , people expect the mutt to be able to figure out which contact is ok as a pup, and not see it as a block to free expression to make contact, are only fooling themselves, The dog must see you as a channel to free expression,,in whatever form, because in a dog's mind all things are closely related, the mutt has a mental image of every emotional incounter it has had stored in its emotional memory, because he is a pure emotional animal,,drive is pure emotion , making contact with you is pure emotion,, Bit long winded bud, but the only drive we're interested in , is the drive to make contact, be it a rabbit, tennis ball , stick , or you, wont be easy at the start , but you can get a dog to focus on a ball through drive and work from there, then use the ball as a lure , when calling the dog, thats the basis of it , best of luck, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airbourne 128 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram A dog is programmed by his nature to respond to his inner pull to make contact with quarry through drive , its one of the strongest pulls in the animal kingdom, its worth £1,oooooo to the dog, a treat is worth about £1000, making a fuss about £500, When a dog is out sniffing round doing his own thing, what it is looking for is a scent that collates back to some scent is the past that triggered drive , scent of bunnies, fox, whatever has stimulated his drive in the past, because that ''s where he want to be , in DRIVE , When your mutt weights up the £1000 and the £500 treat VERSUS the winning the lottery treat, he can't respond to you, its going against everything that has been bred into running dogs for 1000's of years, But we can stimulate a dogs drive as well, its a lot harder in dogs who dont see their owner ,as a channel through which their drive can flow, and more than likely see the owner as a block to expressing prey drive, Working Collies are an example of a dog with high drive potential bred to chase and herd sheep, but since agility competitions such as flyball and such canine sports , collies can turn their hand to it, because it stimulates their prey drive, its the same with a running dog they can be stimulated to respond to you , via a tennis ball or stick if they see it as a mechinism through which prey drive can flow, you just need to get the dog's interest flowing , tease the dog at first and build up from there,, i would also encourage contact between between you, physical touch including jumping up(dont wear your good clothes)is vital , if a dog wants to make contact with me in whatever form it takes ,im happy, if the mutt gets a dig everytime he tries to make contact through his own free will, you have no idea what message your sending out to your dog , people expect the mutt to be able to figure out which contact is ok as a pup, and not see it as a block to free expression to make contact, are only fooling themselves, The dog must see you as a channel to free expression,,in whatever form, because in a dog's mind all things are closely related, the mutt has a mental image of every emotional incounter it has had stored in its emotional memory, because he is a pure emotional animal,,drive is pure emotion , making contact with you is pure emotion,, Bit long winded bud, but the only drive we're interested in , is the drive to make contact, be it a rabbit, tennis ball , stick , or you, wont be easy at the start , but you can get a dog to focus on a ball through drive and work from there, then use the ball as a lure , when calling the dog, thats the basis of it , best of luck, Good write up mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hellyer189 93 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I got a bull grey with the same issues mate, but Laurence is a vertue and it does pay off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottish carper ingram 40 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 i have a bull grey whipp who just isnt doing what he is told off the lead, i have tryed the long lead method, treating him and calling him back making a fuss of him, not putting him back on the lead and letting him carry on but nothing is working, simly a case of he does what he wants off the lead, i just spent 15 mins trying to call him back out of a brooke any tips would be apreciated, cheers ingram A dog is programmed by his nature to respond to his inner pull to make contact with quarry through drive , its one of the strongest pulls in the animal kingdom, its worth £1,oooooo to the dog, a treat is worth about £1000, making a fuss about £500, When a dog is out sniffing round doing his own thing, what it is looking for is a scent that collates back to some scent is the past that triggered drive , scent of bunnies, fox, whatever has stimulated his drive in the past, because that ''s where he want to be , in DRIVE , When your mutt weights up the £1000 and the £500 treat VERSUS the winning the lottery treat, he can't respond to you, its going against everything that has been bred into running dogs for 1000's of years, But we can stimulate a dogs drive as well, its a lot harder in dogs who dont see their owner ,as a channel through which their drive can flow, and more than likely see the owner as a block to expressing prey drive, Working Collies are an example of a dog with high drive potential bred to chase and herd sheep, but since agility competitions such as flyball and such canine sports , collies can turn their hand to it, because it stimulates their prey drive, its the same with a running dog they can be stimulated to respond to you , via a tennis ball or stick if they see it as a mechinism through which prey drive can flow, you just need to get the dog's interest flowing , tease the dog at first and build up from there,, i would also encourage contact between between you, physical touch including jumping up(dont wear your good clothes)is vital , if a dog wants to make contact with me in whatever form it takes ,im happy, if the mutt gets a dig everytime he tries to make contact through his own free will, you have no idea what message your sending out to your dog , people expect the mutt to be able to figure out which contact is ok as a pup, and not see it as a block to free expression to make contact, are only fooling themselves, The dog must see you as a channel to free expression,,in whatever form, because in a dog's mind all things are closely related, the mutt has a mental image of every emotional incounter it has had stored in its emotional memory, because he is a pure emotional animal,,drive is pure emotion , making contact with you is pure emotion,, Bit long winded bud, but the only drive we're interested in , is the drive to make contact, be it a rabbit, tennis ball , stick , or you, wont be easy at the start , but you can get a dog to focus on a ball through drive and work from there, then use the ball as a lure , when calling the dog, thats the basis of it , best of luck, Good write up mate cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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