baw 4,360 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 had my pup 3 weeks now he was 10 weeks old yesterday, i walk him loads it wont hurt them imo. good food exercise and plenty of fresh air can only do you and the pup good. in 7 of his walks i have walked a total of 45.5 miles. he is developing well both mentally and physically as exercise promotes growth hormones. as long as your pup enjoys there self i dont see any problems 1st walk 6.7 miles 2nd walk 4.3 miles 3rd walk 2 miles 4th walk 5.4 miles 5th walk 10.5 miles 6th walk 8.3 miles 7th walk 8.3 miles me the pup and the older dog are benifiting from the exercise. the pups doubled in size and weight in 3 weeks. f**k OFF its true mate. distance is measured by a gps watch for running, down to 100th of a mile. But why??? A pup needs to waste its energy running, jinking, pulling things, playing, etc, etc, etc, not f*****g walking. Is this all on hard roads? Your doing untold damage IMO Theres been research on both sides of this some top vets believe dogs are like gold fish and thrive in a larger environment. Which is what i believe ,These walks are alot better then shoved in a pen for most of day where different types of damage can be done and trigger is right to a point exercise in pups do release more growth hormones but on the same point puts a catabolic state on pups so sleep is just a important to recover. As well as good food to help shift from the catabolic state, and get the benefits but one thing to keep in Mind it is also a proven fact that even tho these early hormones do increase growth ,and progression can be swifter but later in life most dogs pick up more injurys slightly easier That have been put threw this process younger. This is what my dad always told me. And he's been a top bio chemist researcher who researches and test performance products for dogs and horses so he knows his stuff lol well I hope haha lol Hence why I asked him if he has had a dog run in its 6th,7th,8th season. Its no secret if you hammer them young it shortens their working life. As for it being better than being locked in a kennel, that too is obvious. one wrong doesn't make another right though. Pups, dogs need stimulated just like everyone but walking the legs off it isn't going to gain anything in my view. Let it have freedom, let it play, just like a child a dog needs to grow up naturally, not forced into adulthood from the word go. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. you sound like a man who's thought bout all this walking with the pup and think its going to pay off in the long run,,and when you see improvements in the mutt you put it down to all this exercise, a dog is a dog is a dog, he will only be as good as he's able to be, you've convinced yourself it works, and thats fine but you wont see a greyhound man at any level doing the same, big compound, plenty of space to run and play, because they know what works and what is needed to build a healthy animal built for speed,,with the money involved in greyhounds , they dont get things like that wrong, but best of luck with the pup hope he serves you well Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. 8weeks lamping what exactly? You telling me a 8 week pup can catch a rabbit? Baw - this is no even worth bothering with? f*****g nutter! It'll be nailing foxes - single handed - next month! I reckon it's a 15 pager this one!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. 8weeks lamping what exactly? You telling me a 8 week pup can catch a rabbit? Baw - this is no even worth bothering with? f*****g nutter! It'll be nailing foxes - single handed - next month! I reckon it's a 15 pager this one!!!!!!!!! LOL mate, I'm not so sure.... I don't think he is a wind up merchant, might be wrong, remember I was once, january, 17th, 1981...... I reckon he thinks he is doing right, strange as that sounds. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,729 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 i would not run a pup hard untill its aproaching 12 months old having said that nothing wrong with giving it the oppertunaty to experience as many situations as possible within its capabilities as a young dog but to walk a2//3 month old pup 40 odd miles a week in my oppinion is of no benefit at all in fact i see it as detremental but carry on those that believe it right .. i dont Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. 8weeks lamping what exactly? You telling me a 8 week pup can catch a rabbit? Baw - this is no even worth bothering with? f*****g nutter! It'll be nailing foxes - single handed - next month! I reckon it's a 15 pager this one!!!!!!!!! LOL mate, I'm not so sure.... I don't think he is a wind up merchant, might be wrong, remember I was once, january, 17th, 1981...... I reckon he thinks he is doing right, strange as that sounds. I have an 8 month old 3/4 collie geyhound - he's spent his life so far growing up in his own time, basic obedience training, retrieving, jumping, recall. stock work and running around as he likes on the flat, hills, rough ground and woods and sleeping. Don't think I've ever walked him for more than 2 miles on the lead. He's fairly fit but I'd never walk him for 10.5 miles he'd be f*****g knackered after it. Conditioning is for another time eh? Let it grow up first! That's my take on it anyway. Good luck with the puppy buddy. Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. 8weeks lamping what exactly? You telling me a 8 week pup can catch a rabbit? Baw - this is no even worth bothering with? f*****g nutter! It'll be nailing foxes - single handed - next month! I reckon it's a 15 pager this one!!!!!!!!! LOL mate, I'm not so sure.... I don't think he is a wind up merchant, might be wrong, remember I was once, january, 17th, 1981...... I reckon he thinks he is doing right, strange as that sounds. I have an 8 month old 3/4 collie geyhound - he's spent his life so far growing up in his own time, basic obedience training, retrieving, jumping, recall. stock work and running around as he likes on the flat, hills, rough ground and woods and sleeping. Don't think I've ever walked him for more than 2 miles on the lead. He's fairly fit but I'd never walk him for 10.5 miles he'd be f*****g knackered after it. Conditioning is for another time eh? Let it grow up first! That's my take on it anyway. Good luck with the puppy buddy. I go to the same school of thought as you mate Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 i remember this lad coming out with this before about taking his 10 week old pup out lamping, he was under a different user name. Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 same group of people with the malumutes/alsation/ crosses Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) . Edited May 9, 2011 by paulsmithy83 Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) You had a pup before that you've done this with? A dog that still did the job in its 6th,7th,8th season? I want you to be honest mate. yes mate hes lay in front the fireplace buy my feet as i am writing this, hes just over 6 1/2 yrs old. born sept 14th 2004 got him at 8 weeks old done took him out lamping straight away hes done plenty of work. ive always gone lamping with a bloke thats always taken his dogs out from 8 weeks since ive been a young lad. seen the results and what it does to the dogs time and time again. it puts a old head on young shoulders. you sound like a man who's thought bout all this walking with the pup and think its going to pay off in the long run,,and when you see improvements in the mutt you put it down to all this exercise, a dog is a dog is a dog, he will only be as good as he's able to be, you've convinced yourself it works, and thats fine but you wont see a greyhound man at any level doing the same, big compound, plenty of space to run and play, because they know what works and what is needed to build a healthy animal built for speed,,with the money involved in greyhounds , they dont get things like that wrong, but best of luck with the pup hope he serves you well Yes but stamina in greyhounds isn't a factor that they have to contribute they just want that excessive burst to last one run. Not much good in a working animal. And yes they do give them space and lots of it but most top rearers have a lurcher or a freak of a grey in the pen with them that's young and playfull to run them on so they say to make them play and run more and if you ask these top rearers what the reason for this space is, they will tell you so they can RUN and PlAY as much as possible. Now tell me what puts more pressure on bones pups running all day chasing each other at speeds there not used to or one long slow walk a day pottering about. I don't agree with lamping at young ages but walks are fine even at distances mentioned. One last thing I don't own a malamute/alsatian cross never have or never will just have different take on some things. Edited May 9, 2011 by paulsmithy83 Quote Link to post
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