mangy1983 51 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 is it not OPUS DEI the work of god Stand corrected ,But should that not read, the work of a wee guy from Germany who likes to make alot of money off Impoverished Believers.Speak to Your God directly, He won't mind and it will not cost you a penny. The connection to the S.N.P ,its,candidates for election. Who will they represent first the Scottish nation or Their belief system,I think the Jesuit Order tried the same thing, back in not to distant past. Only my Opinion might be wrong ? Every man should have an Equal say on how he is Govern'd Regardless his belief system, Still dont get what your trying to imply..Salmond's not catholic he's a Presbytarian or COS...I know he's been accused of sucking up to various religious leaders for votes...maybe you could enlighten further Candidate put up by S.N.P. in seat that is seen as a Catholic Vote,member of Opus Dei !playing the Sectarian card or What! Boasting about their Muslim Candidate ! This man will divide and use anything for his own agenda he is a Spiv!! ,Is this the party that doesn't take heed of Colour or Creed,then why use the Faith/Colour of a man to get votes.?Because thy Will be Done,by Wee Eck for Power and Glorious History.He will open the door for Extremist from both sides,to turn young impressionable kids to hate! for what? so the men in grey can keep leading us around by the nose! I never said Salmond was Catholic ,it's not about that .The implication is he will get into bed with anybody to see through his plan,then he'll cut them loose and get on with his own agenda! I would be happy with a Celtic Federation, Welsh,Irish,Manx,Cumbrian,Northumbrian.Cornwallian,even let in the Britons,but I think the Romans beat me to it ,Britain .The blood that Courses through all our veins on the Island is much the same no matter where your from . One Love,One People,Let's get together it'll be all Right,Wise man that Bob Marley,born out of union of two Nations. We don't need borders on this Island We already KNOW who we are! Oidhche mhth !Chi mi dh'aithghearr sibh.Brocdair Cu Beag. A bheil sibh fileanta ann an Gaidhlig? Bha mise anns an darna cleass a riabh a chaidh tron bun sgoil ann an Gaidhlig tiorraidh an drasda Calum MacLeod Tha mo clann fritheil Sgoil Gaidlig Glaschu,tha mo gaidlig beag ! tapadh leibh,caite a bheil thu ? Tha mi a fuireach air an t-eilean Leodhas ann an breascleit da mhile bho tursaichean callanais tiorraidh Callum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom My comments are aimed squarely at Salmond and his cronies,,,and he is anti English,,, go on ,tell me otherwise!!! He has made his feelings clear!!. I am a patriotic Scot who has plenty friends who see themselves as nationalists, some do have an anti English streak,, no point denying it,, Where have I stated that the majority of Scots are anti English,, read before replying please And as for "moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" ,,, well up yours mate!I am no moron. ,,, but if the hat fits and all that ATB Where did I say personally that you were a moron? I did'nt what I said was! "There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") and I used your quote at no time did I suggest or say you were a moron! neither did I resort to personal abuse! I also did not say that you stated "that the majority of Scots are anti-English" what I said say was "Why does anyone think the majority of Scots dislike theEnglish! it's simply not true" and you ask me to read before replying? Tom What you said was ,,my misconception was moronic,,implying I am a moron, or suggesting it , take your pick, but don`t hide from what you wrote. Read your post above and you will see where you stated that people think all Scots are anti English,, aimed at my post! another implication. So yes,, read before posting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 JUst watched the swearing in of the snp and they say they arent on a power ego trip.shamefull display.pakistanis in tartan and one swearing in in urdhu.salmond couldnt even do the swearing in without his wee dig as per usual.and one crossing her fingers like the actions of a kid in a playground.what a show of arrogance that was.please dont think they represent the maj of scotland england. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom My comments are aimed squarely at Salmond and his cronies,,,and he is anti English,,, go on ,tell me otherwise!!! He has made his feelings clear!!. I am a patriotic Scot who has plenty friends who see themselves as nationalists, some do have an anti English streak,, no point denying it,, Where have I stated that the majority of Scots are anti English,, read before replying please And as for "moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" ,,, well up yours mate!I am no moron. ,,, but if the hat fits and all that ATB Where did I say personally that you were a moron? I did'nt what I said was! "There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") and I used your quote at no time did I suggest or say you were a moron! neither did I resort to personal abuse! I also did not say that you stated "that the majority of Scots are anti-English" what I said say was "Why does anyone think the majority of Scots dislike theEnglish! it's simply not true" and you ask me to read before replying? Tom What you said was ,,my misconception was moronic,,implying I am a moron, or suggesting it , take your pick, but don`t hide from what you wrote. Read your post above and you will see where you stated that people think all Scots are anti English,, aimed at my post! another implication. So yes,, read before posting. I did not say or use the words your misconcepion was moronic or you were a moron! what I did say was " the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" note the use of the words the not you or yours! You also infer what you posted was a misconception?? Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom My comments are aimed squarely at Salmond and his cronies,,,and he is anti English,,, go on ,tell me otherwise!!! He has made his feelings clear!!. I am a patriotic Scot who has plenty friends who see themselves as nationalists, some do have an anti English streak,, no point denying it,, Where have I stated that the majority of Scots are anti English,, read before replying please And as for "moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" ,,, well up yours mate!I am no moron. ,,, but if the hat fits and all that ATB Where did I say personally that you were a moron? I did'nt what I said was! "There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") and I used your quote at no time did I suggest or say you were a moron! neither did I resort to personal abuse! I also did not say that you stated "that the majority of Scots are anti-English" what I said say was "Why does anyone think the majority of Scots dislike theEnglish! it's simply not true" and you ask me to read before replying? Tom What you said was ,,my misconception was moronic,,implying I am a moron, or suggesting it , take your pick, but don`t hide from what you wrote. Read your post above and you will see where you stated that people think all Scots are anti English,, aimed at my post! another implication. So yes,, read before posting. I did not say or use the words your misconcepion was moronic or you were a moron! what I did say was " the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" note the use of the words the not you or yours! You also infer what you posted was a misconception?? Tom WHY IS WEE PRICK SO ANTI ENGLISH THEN TOM WHY IS HE SO PARANOID , WHY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,881 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 With all due respect Thomas, you do seem to keep ducking the question of how Scotland will pay for its self? You trot out a pretty well rehearsed line about tax raising powers and getting all the money from your own exports so I will ask you again matey: How much extra in tax with the private sector employed percentage of the population have to pay? How much life is there left in north sea oil and gas and what will your great grandchildren or there great grandchildren have to fall back on? Or have the pro independance mob glossed over in persuit of "their" dream. STILL NO REPLY FROM THE PRO CAMP :whistling: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 With all due respect Thomas, you do seem to keep ducking the question of how Scotland will pay for its self? You trot out a pretty well rehearsed line about tax raising powers and getting all the money from your own exports so I will ask you again matey: How much extra in tax with the private sector employed percentage of the population have to pay? How much life is there left in north sea oil and gas and what will your great grandchildren or there great grandchildren have to fall back on? Or have the pro independance mob glossed over in persuit of "their" dream. STILL NO REPLY FROM THE PRO CAMP :whistling: yea i noticed lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [ What you said was ,,my misconception was moronic,,implying I am a moron, or suggesting it , take your pick, but don`t hide from what you wrote. Read your post above and you will see where you stated that people think all Scots are anti English,, aimed at my post! another implication. So yes,, read before posting. I did not say or use the words your misconcepion was moronic or you were a moron! what I did say was " the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" note the use of the words the not you or yours! You also infer what you posted was a misconception?? Tom [/quote Yeh whatever,, maybe you should get an English teacher to proof read your posts then,, the inference made is there to see, doesn`t change what I have said though. It also seems my views are shared by quite a few. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Why is it some poeple are so against an Independant Scotland.We dont want to be called British.Some like myself want our own Nation.Our own cultrue.And most of all our own identity.If you dont agree Fair play.A referendum will sort it out one way or another.At the very least it would give every true Scotsman the chance to have his say.As for taxes dont ask the question.If you cant answer it yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
events co-ordinator 353 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've got a good idea instead of all the Scottish based thl members arguing amongst themselves why don't they go down smartly dressed and introduce themselves to their NEW ? msp and explain what they do Legally work their dogs/shoot/ferret/fish etc. They could then explain that they voted to remove their msp as in My case because he was anti gun and his party were going to ban snareing. We now have an Msp who we will visit to put forward our views and offer our help in understanding wildlife matters of which he may have no knowledge so that they don't have to just relly on ill advised or biased researchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've got a good idea instead of all the Scottish based thl members arguing amongst themselves why don't they go down smartly dressed and introduce themselves to their NEW ? msp and explain what they do Legally work their dogs/shoot/ferret/fish etc. They could then explain that they voted to remove their msp as in My case because he was anti gun and his party were going to ban snareing. We now have an Msp who we will visit to put forward our views and offer our help in understanding wildlife matters of which he may have no knowledge so that they don't have to just relly on ill advised or biased researchers Agree mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 you only have to read the posts in this thread to see the maj dont want it the answer to your question lies in the posts.i agree you are entitled to you say.however i would say to you that when the referendum comes and its founded that the vast maj of scots dont want a break in the union,would you agree that that should be the end of it?also statements like "TRUE SCOTS" is just ridiculous.going by that you must think that the majority of scottish people are not true scots!i suspect you are letting by gone days and history from a time thats so far in the past is clouding your judgement.the troubles in ireland should have no place in your quest for an independent scotland.you do not hide the fact of your disgust and hatred towards the english rule in ireland and i suspect you are comparing that to scotland.which in all fairness really have nothing to do with each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) I've got a good idea instead of all the Scottish based thl members arguing amongst themselves why don't they go down smartly dressed and introduce themselves to their NEW ? msp and explain what they do Legally work their dogs/shoot/ferret/fish etc. They could then explain that they voted to remove their msp as in My case because he was anti gun and his party were going to ban snareing. We now have an Msp who we will visit to put forward our views and offer our help in understanding wildlife matters of which he may have no knowledge so that they don't have to just relly on ill advised or biased researchers maybe a bold statement for a hunting site but the future of scotland and our childrens future and our economy and other important issues for the future of scotland are far more important than the legality of hunting with dogs and the whole hunting argument.That is far from the main issue in fact a mere drop, there are far more at risk here that a hunting issue. also whos arguing?its a debate and im actually suprised how calm this debate has been.A big shock for thl a thread that isnt turning into a slagging match. Edited May 12, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 you only have to read the posts in this thread to see the maj dont want it the answer to your question lies in the posts.i agree you are entitled to you say.however i would say to you that when the referendum comes and its founded that the vast maj of scots dont want a break in the union,would you agree that that should be the end of it?also statements like "TRUE SCOTS" is just ridiculous.going by that you must think that the majority of scottish people are not true scots!i suspect you are letting by gone days and history from a time thats so far in the past is clouding your judgement.the troubles in ireland should have no place in your quest for an independent scotland.you do not hide the fact of your disgust and hatred towards the english rule in ireland and i suspect you are comparing that to scotland.which in all fairness really have nothing to do with each other. Think you need to read the post again.Only person makeing ridiculous statement,s is yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 you only have to read the posts in this thread to see the maj dont want it the answer to your question lies in the posts.i agree you are entitled to you say.however i would say to you that when the referendum comes and its founded that the vast maj of scots dont want a break in the union,would you agree that that should be the end of it?also statements like "TRUE SCOTS" is just ridiculous.going by that you must think that the majority of scottish people are not true scots!i suspect you are letting by gone days and history from a time thats so far in the past is clouding your judgement.the troubles in ireland should have no place in your quest for an independent scotland.you do not hide the fact of your disgust and hatred towards the english rule in ireland and i suspect you are comparing that to scotland.which in all fairness really have nothing to do with each other. Think you need to read the post again.Only person makeing ridiculous statement,s is yourself. hows that mate?tell me what i said thats ridiculous please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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