Foxgun Tom 75 Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I never thought I'd be embarrassed to be Scottish........ How the hell can debate or a thread on a forum make you embarassed to be Scottish?? I can think of worst things elderly and child poverty, compulsary redundancies, knife crime short sentencing hospital waiting lists etc: Tom 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I never thought I'd be embarrassed to be Scottish........ How the hell can debate or a thread on a forum make you embarassed to be Scottish?? I can think of worst things elderly and child poverty, compulsary redundancies, knife crime short sentencing hospital waiting lists etc: Tom and you think no blood will be shed over this tom this nation has ruined enough lives and split genorations and communtys without another power mad shite stirring glory seeking b*****d stiring up more but as you say ON YOU GO HOPE YOU DONT LIVE TO REGRET IT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I never thought I'd be embarrassed to be Scottish........ How the hell can debate or a thread on a forum make you embarassed to be Scottish?? I can think of worst things elderly and child poverty, compulsary redundancies, knife crime short sentencing hospital waiting lists etc: Tom And none of them are the snp's fault Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 there plenty been said recently and written about by the press and police involvement about secterian behaviour in this country over football.well get used to it if independence is on the cards,but instead of it being solely on match day.it will be a common occurence and that fills me with dread.there no way it would pass without any trouble.i honestly cant see why that is beneficial to scotland.One mans ego trip will amount to unrest and a bigger divide between nationlists and unionists.no good can come of this! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Lets have a vote on here....................... If your for independance, put a If your against independance, put a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 need I go on ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) dont thnk i need to answer that lol and the thread pretty much summons up the feeling on this madcap idea. Edited May 8, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bendrover 556 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Lets have a vote on here....................... If your for independance, put a If your against independance, put a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom Edited May 8, 2011 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom My comments are aimed squarely at Salmond and his cronies,,,and he is anti English,,, go on ,tell me otherwise!!! He has made his feelings clear!!. I am a patriotic Scot who has plenty friends who see themselves as nationalists, some do have an anti English streak,, no point denying it,, Where have I stated that the majority of Scots are anti English,, read before replying please And as for "moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English" ,,, well up yours mate!I am no moron. ,,, but if the hat fits and all that ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blooded 62 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 every nationilist i have ever met was certainly anti english.not saying tom is but i would say quite easily that the maj are.whether that comes from the old days of english rule in scotland or over the shores in ireland its certainly way up there in thier thinking.as for salmond f**k sake course he is anti english.all you need to do to find proof of that is listen to any of his interviews he has ever given.i dont think i have ever heard that wee fat pie give a interview without getting his dig in.he is well suited being pals with that other old fraud sean connery.that man is sickening.he bleats about independent scotland while he stashes his cash overseas.one min he was a rangers man then iot was celtic now its back to rangers lol he is scottish when it suits him.anyway this has been done to death think we all know where each other stands on this matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom Hi Tom, I see you are still intent on removing your small part of the UK from the UK. We had a wee discussion about this before some time ago, remember? You never did answer my main question about the taxes that the UK uses to support Scotland. So, I will ask again: If Scotland becomes an independent country do you think it is fair that Scotland then has to raise its own tax and take no money from the rest of the UK? I personally have no problems with Scotland or Wales or Northern Ireland becoming independent countries in their own right, but IF that happens I would expect them to immediately stop taking any money from the UK to support or subsidise them for anything, national health included. If you want a true independent country, then you should be self reliant imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Salmond would see this country burn in order to get his spitefull wish of seperation from the English, he is a cock ! He has no other priorities and has no interest in what his dream would cost us all! And as for gods involement, anyone who believes in one is as thick as they are dangerous. ATB There it is in all its glory! the moronic misconception that Scottish Nationalism or Independance is about being anti English ("spitefull wish of seperation from the English,") Does that mean were' spitefull against the Welsh or Northern Irish as well? Why does anyone think the majority of scots dislike the English, it's simply not true!!, I travel and stay in England "Kilt and All" maybe half a dozen times a year and stay with English friends, I love the place and the people!! do you think all Scots are members of the Tartan Army and can't see past a blue shirt and a Saltire! We have so many cultural, historical and personal ties with England that those links can and never will be broken!! We can still have separation with co-operation with our neighbours in Wales, Northern Ireland and England Wether some people like it or not Independance and unionism is under the spotlight and depending how the SNP government performs attitudes towords the issues can change? the minority can soon become the majority. Two or three years into this term and the UK government perform badly and the SNP are doing well for Scotland what do you think will realistically happen? Would you as a Scot support a duff UK administration or a Scottish one that's doing well? hypothetical I know but you never can tell!! Tom Hi Tom, I see you are still intent on removing your small part of the UK from the UK. We had a wee discussion about this before some time ago, remember? You never did answer my main question about the taxes that the UK uses to support Scotland. So, I will ask again: If Scotland becomes an independent country do you think it is fair that Scotland then has to raise its own tax and take no money from the rest of the UK? I personally have no problems with Scotland or Wales or Northern Ireland becoming independent countries in their own right, but IF that happens I would expect them to immediately stop taking any money from the UK to support or subsidise them for anything, national health included. If you want a true independent country, then you should be self reliant imo. as you have brought that up,i will add if it happened,just remember that scotland would have to buy the debt from england.where is that comming from?i honestly think that salmond and his motely crew have not thought this through at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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