jamie7344 250 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 if a part of the fens is gettin regulary coursed and hares are getting run for 3/4 minutes and missed there gonna be a lot fitter group of hares not to mention jumping a mile in distance, thats where u see top notch hares run, worth me travelling 3 hrs to see hares of that quality where if i want i can go 250 yards up road from my house as many runs as i want and hares are pathetic Quote Link to post
northantscourser 118 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 well said tomo lots of reasons why they are better the land the soil that grows the crops the stuff they are eating the fact they get chased regular it all adds up to make a supreme athlete How do you know that makes a difference? The soil lol, just cos you think it doesn't make it so. Ok, what the hell, if I get banned for expressing my opinion, so be it. I've heard it said umpteen times on here, even baldrick has said it recently. At the fens you can see the whole course. This makes it the ideal venue to meet and test your dog. Not because the hares there are superior or the land has a good loam lol. It's the perfect coursing arena. I'm not saying the hares are bad, just can't see them being any better. i agree with you baw, its just if you put a good hare up on small land its away in woods cover ect but if you put a good hare up on the fens dogs got to kill it or get blew to bits in the end, but still loads of shit hares on the fens like anywhere else well said mate have you still got that footage of the zack dog mate Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 At last Jamie, someone willing to tell the truth. Your right about the dog either catching or blowing, no excuses for the dog. Probably why speedy dogs aren't any good for big numbers. Tell me though Jamie, do you not enjoy watching an explosive course compared to a grind? Quote Link to post
jamie7344 250 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 well said tomo lots of reasons why they are better the land the soil that grows the crops the stuff they are eating the fact they get chased regular it all adds up to make a supreme athlete How do you know that makes a difference? The soil lol, just cos you think it doesn't make it so. Ok, what the hell, if I get banned for expressing my opinion, so be it. I've heard it said umpteen times on here, even baldrick has said it recently. At the fens you can see the whole course. This makes it the ideal venue to meet and test your dog. Not because the hares there are superior or the land has a good loam lol. It's the perfect coursing arena. I'm not saying the hares are bad, just can't see them being any better. i agree with you baw, its just if you put a good hare up on small land its away in woods cover ect but if you put a good hare up on the fens dogs got to kill it or get blew to bits in the end, but still loads of shit hares on the fens like anywhere else well said mate have you still got that footage of the zack dog mate soon as i get my dvds back i'll put them on youtube mate, got some of his sister aswell Quote Link to post
jamie7344 250 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 At last Jamie, someone willing to tell the truth. Your right about the dog either catching or blowing, no excuses for the dog. Probably why speedy dogs aren't any good for big numbers. Tell me though Jamie, do you not enjoy watching an explosive course compared to a grind? i dont like watching dogs follow hares across fens 10 foot off um doin all the damage in cover or dykes no. but on same hand cant bear watching a dog go hell for leather at a hare i know isn't gonna be took out in 30 secs, like watching a dog splatter shit hares in seconds but if they get on a good hare use there head set the hare up ready for when its reqady to die then take it out.......lucky dark destroyer perfect example some think he was slow but you can tell he was the type could run anywhere jmo Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Excellent points guys. I agree the fen hare must be fit and I agree articgun that a hare will use it's surroundings to it's advantage and on the fens it only really has it's stamina. But the doesn't know the dog can run 4,5,6 runs after his run such is the advantage the dog has. I'd that's where you run then fair dos, not my cup of tea. Jamie, I agree in a perfect world you want the dog to have the speed of a greyhound but the stamina of a saluki. For years most breeds have been used to get a happy medium, but I feel the fen guys have went more for the stamina, which is a pity. Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 f*****g excellent read chalky.. If I have one complaint about these forums is that you and jd don't write enough. Quality Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 maybe hares are best treated like days , enjoy everyone like it might be your last cos it could well be Quote Link to post
Stanleigh 135 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 maybe hares are best treated like days , enjoy everyone like it might be your last cos it could well be Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 f*****g excellent read chalky.. If I have one complaint about these forums is that you and jd don't write enough. Quality However,..I think technically,.you CAN be banned for complaining.... Ok, change complaint to gripe Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 on the fen theres nowhere for the dog to hide ,it aint gonna lose the hare in cover after 30 secs or through a gate etc etc it ethier kills it or fades away ,thats what makes fen hares the best imo you get to see what a dogs got theres not alot cover etc about to spoil the run,you get to see what a hare realy has in the tank WHEN THERES NOWHERE TO HIDE Quote Link to post
rolysmate 49 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Yes generally you can see the course BUT there is plenty of game cover and crops on the fens for the hare to use as well it"s not just one vast open prairie as many seem to think and to be honest also you will see many of the match men picking their slips. I"ve seen them bypass hares looking to find one on plough for example trying to make sure as much as is possible is in favour of the dog and I suppose when often large sums of money are at stake you can"t blame them BUT for me its far more fun when its for the pleasure of it and you are really testing your dog. Quote Link to post
jamie7344 250 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Yes generally you can see the course BUT there is plenty of game cover and crops on the fens for the hare to use as well it"s not just one vast open prairie as many seem to think and to be honest also you will see many of the match men picking their slips. I"ve seen them bypass hares looking to find one on plough for example trying to make sure as much as is possible is in favour of the dog and I suppose when often large sums of money are at stake you can"t blame them BUT for me its far more fun when its for the pleasure of it and you are really testing your dog. one of best fast killers i've seen run, was missing loads on the fens last season not beacause it had no wind because it did. but because it was no good round cover, most of the long runs you get on the fens the dogs have to be good round cover to be able to stay on a hare for 3/4/5 mins Edited May 6, 2011 by jamie7344 Quote Link to post
poacher9991 10 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 all i can say is lads those of you that have never run the big land go and try it .will be a real eye opener for you great topic . Quote Link to post
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