fieldmarshall 13 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) you hear a lot of dogmen on about jackin and once a dog jacks it should be put to sleep or rehomed cos once its done it ,it will do it again! what are your lads and lasses opinions on this ?i am a firm believer that when a dog has jacked it has jacked for a reason ie pulled muscle or cut foot or some kind of injury or shock and once the injury/shock has heeled it should be as good as it was (in most cases) Edited February 13, 2007 by fieldmarshall Quote Link to post
brock 11 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 it depends on the circumstances,a lot of dogs jack because idiots take them out and expect them to run hares for 3 mins or more,its like us trying to run a marathon without training its just not practicle.on the other hand if they are 100% and jack they need to get checked out and rested,then try them again if they do it again and again you need to stop running them on whatever they are jacking on,the problem lies with the breed in some circumstances,because you can run greyhounds time and time again on hares they will run untill they cant run no more and have to stop,and the next time you take a greyhound out he will run as hard again,then you have the saluki,once it has it in his head that it cant catch the hare it will just stop or even not run at all,although its not even tired,seen brilliant lamping bitches that will catch hares all night go out in the day and not even run,strange Quote Link to post
highlander 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 you hear a lot of dogmen on about jackin and once a dog jacks it should be put to sleep or rehomed cos once its done it ,it will do it again! what are your lads and lasses opinions on this ?i am a firm believer that when a dog has jacked it has jacked for a reason ie pulled muscle or cut foot or some kind of injury or shock and once the injury/shock has heeled it should be as good as it was (in most cases) Well im a firm beliver in giving the dog a second chance. I personaly belive the dog should be given the chance another day to try again. Some times you can bore a dog to the extent of it jacking by runing when too young or when not in the right condition of fitness. Thats my opinion mite not be anyone elses dont destroy dogs becase they failed give them a chance to prove themselves. Quote Link to post
fieldmarshall 13 Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 it depends on the circumstances,a lot of dogs jack because idiots take them out and expect them to run hares for 3 mins or more,its like us trying to run a marathon without training its just not practicle.on the other hand if they are 100% and jack they need to get checked out and rested,then try them again if they do it again and again you need to stop running them on whatever they are jacking on,the problem lies with the breed in some circumstances,because you can run greyhounds time and time again on hares they will run untill they cant run no more and have to stop,and the next time you take a greyhound out he will run as hard again,then you have the saluki,once it has it in his head that it cant catch the hare it will just stop or even not run at all,although its not even tired,seen brilliant lamping bitches that will catch hares all night go out in the day and not even run,strange thanks van goff you not just a pretty face you hear a lot of dogmen on about jackin and once a dog jacks it should be put to sleep or rehomed cos once its done it ,it will do it again! what are your lads and lasses opinions on this ?i am a firm believer that when a dog has jacked it has jacked for a reason ie pulled muscle or cut foot or some kind of injury or shock and once the injury/shock has heeled it should be as good as it was (in most cases) Well im a firm beliver in giving the dog a second chance. I personaly belive the dog should be given the chance another day to try again. Some times you can bore a dog to the extent of it jacking by runing when too young or when not in the right condition of fitness. Thats my opinion mite not be anyone elses dont destroy dogs becase they failed give them a chance to prove themselves. thanks for your opinon highlander Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Have to agree fieldmarshall,there could be various reasons why a dog might jack, it's all to easy to say f##k it he's jacked let's put it down. Better to call it a night take the dog home and have a good look over it to see if you can spot any injuries.I always wash my dogs feet after a nights lamping,checking for cuts and toe injuries. If you don't find anything check the dog over the following morning making sure he is sound more than likely there will be a niggle somewhere,every dog should be entitled to a second chance. Saying all that,is it not up to the owner of the dog to read the signals the dog gives out, like when it's not quite right or when it's had enough. Better to stop too soon rather than to late,the rabbits will still be there tomorrow. Then again there are dogs out there that have no guts about them,my mate had one,it was that bad i've seen her jack on the first rabbit of the night on more than one occasion.In the end he gave her away to an old lady as a pet. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 The dogs future would depend on the reason for jacking...if its a physical injury then fair enough but if for example a lurcher has decided he doesn't like the sharp end after his 2nd, 10th, 50th fox then he isn't going to start catching them again.... Quote Link to post
fieldmarshall 13 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Have to agree fieldmarshall,there could be various reasons why a dog might jack, it's all to easy to say f##k it he's jacked let's put it down. Better to call it a night take the dog home and have a good look over it to see if you can spot any injuries.I always wash my dogs feet after a nights lamping,checking for cuts and toe injuries. If you don't find anything check the dog over the following morning making sure he is sound more than likely there will be a niggle somewhere,every dog should be entitled to a second chance. Saying all that,is it not up to the owner of the dog to read the signals the dog gives out, like when it's not quite right or when it's had enough. Better to stop too soon rather than to late,the rabbits will still be there tomorrow. Then again there are dogs out there that have no guts about them,my mate had one,it was that bad i've seen her jack on the first rabbit of the night on more than one occasion.In the end he gave her away to an old lady as a pet. i know sometimes in some cases you are bangin your head against a brick wall cos they loose the eye of tiger or dont even have it Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 dogs that jack through Injurys and exhaustion are curable unless the dogs blown bad then you havent a chance ive seen dogs that have blown where folks have rested em and given them plenty of time to come right all to no avail these were dogs that wanted to do the job again but couldnt. I think you have to know the dogs limits its no good running a dog into the ground Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,755 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 this is an interesting thread. but this has to be a first, Fieldmarshal starting a thread as you know Visa jacked last year early nov i think , but that was after she got tangled in an electrick fence. lucky for me i was away for 2 months after this and it has given her time to get her head back together. these last 2 weeks she has had 2 good runs at big rabbits in the day , she didnt catch , i didnt over do it just 1 run 1 day then left her another week then another run then loads of praise then home . hopfully she will be right for this september TOMO Quote Link to post
jpnixon 7 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dont care what anyone says a dog can have a bad day its not a machine (well most anyway). As long as its not a regular occurance then ur grand. Quote Link to post
Guest big bull x Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) every dog deserves a chance but theres only so many chanaces you can give a dog and if they dont make it theres only 1 place for them Edited February 14, 2007 by big bull x Quote Link to post
fieldmarshall 13 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) this is an interesting thread. but this has to be a first, Fieldmarshall starting a thread as you know Visa jacked last year early nov i think , but that was after she got tangled in an electrick fence. lucky for me i was away for 2 months after this and it has given her time to get her head back together. these last 2 weeks she has had 2 good runs at big rabbits in the day , she didnt catch , i didnt over do it just 1 run 1 day then left her another week then another run then loads of praise then home . hopfully she will be right for this september TOMO yer fingers crossed tomo lets hope she gets back to what she was (no iam after nowt ) and good luck with the pups cos you are going to need something a bit better than you ve got to beat the poodle Edited February 14, 2007 by fieldmarshall Quote Link to post
Lennard 10 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 For the foreign crowd... jackin'= opening up or giving up? L Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 For the foreign crowd... jackin'= opening up or giving up? L Means giving up,opening up is barking/yapping. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,755 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 this is an interesting thread. but this has to be a first, Fieldmarshall starting a thread as you know Visa jacked last year early nov i think , but that was after she got tangled in an electrick fence. lucky for me i was away for 2 months after this and it has given her time to get her head back together. these last 2 weeks she has had 2 good runs at big rabbits in the day , she didnt catch , i didnt over do it just 1 run 1 day then left her another week then another run then loads of praise then home . hopfully she will be right for this september TOMO yer fingers crossed tomo lets hope she gets back to what she was (no iam after nowt ) and good luck with the pups cos you are going to need something a bit better than you ve got to beat the poodle i know your trying to wind me up . like i just said though . the poodle aint never beat mine TOMO Quote Link to post
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