riohog 5,729 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Good point TOMO Always thought there was a distinct variation in hares in different areas on a few places ive hunted the hares are smaller and darker and can run faster turn better and take the dog on a trip you need speed and stay together to catch them plodders wont get near them some of the spots youd get both types the big red uns always seem easy compared to the smaller ones when a little dark un gets up you more or less know know it will be real run. it was actualy darcy's point, i copy/pasted, added the smiley in agreement. baw,,,,stop beeing a bore i love the way you think saluki crosses are slow youl lern one day with a bit more experiance he will not learn ... cant educate pork ..lol Edited May 4, 2011 by riohog Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Good point TOMO Always thought there was a distinct variation in hares in different areas on a few places ive hunted the hares are smaller and darker and can run faster turn better and take the dog on a trip you need speed and stay together to catch them plodders wont get near them some of the spots youd get both types the big red uns always seem easy compared to the smaller ones when a little dark un gets up you more or less know know it will be real run. it was actualy darcy's point, i copy/pasted, added the smiley in agreement. baw,,,,stop beeing a bore i love the way you think saluki crosses are slow youl lern one day with a bit more experiance I've seen plenty of salukis mate, they aren't fast. Ok, I'll stop boring you guys lol, I know you know what I think of your plodders Quote Link to post
jamie7344 253 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) BAW,do you class from the northeast of england down to the ilses of sheppy small land? i dont i've ran it! do you class northwest blackpool, preston southport ect small land agen i dont because i've ran it! wud u class southwest of england small land oxford, hampshire? again i dont because i've ran it..........north wales is small land,from lancashire to carlisle is small land, there some great land at sterling nice big flat land............are you still sure the country is 90% small land? maybe scotland is, but not england!!!! Edited May 4, 2011 by jamie7344 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Ohh ff's ok, the places you mentioned, does that represent half of England? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Many moons ago, my uncle had a fairly good dog called Jim. He got his fair share of hares on the biggest land that was close, that being Pocklington. Until the Law intervened that is and they were all summonsed. But, i'm pretty certain that although Jim could do those hares he would have probably been blown away if he had got onto a decent strong fen hare. I think there is a major difference between going out and running the odd hare, and going hare coursing.... I do find it interesting that the one thing those that slag fenland hares/hare coursers off have in common is...that they haven't been there and done it. You don't hear a peep from those that have been and sampled the class lagomorphs that can be found on the biggest of land.....Funny that. At the risk of getting banned, can I ask you to define what you class as coursing? As for slagging the fens, i can't speak for everyone but it's the style of running that I slag. I know the fen guys thinks it's great watching a hare towing a dog about for 6,7,8 minutes but it isn't everyones cup of tea. I reckon the fen coursers enjoy it because it gets results, no other reason. It certainly can't be for the entertainment value cos I would rather watch caravans getting towed down the m74 these 6,7,8 min runs are far and few between..most hares are killed around the 3 min mark ,.,maybe a minute more or a minute less...but around that mark...BUT if you get one of these stingers 5 or 6 mins or more ..you hope you have that dog to stay with it.,,and by increasing your chances of having one of these on the end of your slip ...you need that saluki in them or line bred stuff bred from best to best espeacily if your on your 3rd 4th run ..because if you havent then its either going to get blown to bits or its going to throw the towel in ...thats a fact .. Quote Link to post
jamie7344 253 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Ohh ff's ok, the places you mentioned, does that represent half of England? no mate more than half, some small land round hereford way and birmingham but not small on the same scale as scotland, fact is for a lot of lads if there going to go into a sport they want to do it with 100% commitment i've not met many that dont want the best, breed the best and be the best, met a few that say there happy if they got a dog to kill a hare but that dont wash with me when there running land risking losing dogs cars and driving licences.......what i'm getting at is if you want the best, you surley have to test dogs on the best quarry your aiming at....jmo Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 How many people to day do you know would run the fen without saulki in there make up????? Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,674 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 How many people to day do you know would run the fen without saulki in there make up????? well i have,,,,,and blanked serriously though , if i was running them all the time i woulld ask one of my mates for a well bred couring pup Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Ohh ff's ok, the places you mentioned, does that represent half of England? no mate more than half, some small land round hereford way and birmingham but not small on the same scale as scotland, fact is for a lot of lads if there going to go into a sport they want to do it with 100% commitment i've not met many that dont want the best, breed the best and be the best, met a few that say there happy if they got a dog to kill a hare but that dont wash with me when there running land risking losing dogs cars and driving licences.......what i'm getting at is if you want the best, you surley have to test dogs on the best quarry your aiming at....jmo So if you add Scotland and wales it would probably be about 90 percent? Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 How many people to day do you know would run the fen without saulki in there make up????? well i have,,,,,and blanked serriously though , if i was running them all the time i woulld ask one of my mates for a well bred couring pup But everyone knows you've never had a good dog Quote Link to post
jamie7344 253 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Ohh ff's ok, the places you mentioned, does that represent half of England? no mate more than half, some small land round hereford way and birmingham but not small on the same scale as scotland, fact is for a lot of lads if there going to go into a sport they want to do it with 100% commitment i've not met many that dont want the best, breed the best and be the best, met a few that say there happy if they got a dog to kill a hare but that dont wash with me when there running land risking losing dogs cars and driving licences.......what i'm getting at is if you want the best, you surley have to test dogs on the best quarry your aiming at....jmo So if you add Scotland and wales it would probably be about 90 percent? honest you talk some shit you lolololol Quote Link to post
jamie7344 253 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 is there no big land in scotland no? or wales? there is coz i've seen it Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 How many people to day do you know would run the fen without saulki in there make up????? well i have,,,,,and blanked serriously though , if i was running them all the time i woulld ask one of my mates for a well bred couring pup Tomo do you think that most people that run hares without saulki in there make up are just rabbit men and not out and out coursing men.(Like me) Think if your running fen its a must to have saulki in the blood line but or here think you can get away with it.Think you need a fast up and at them dog a dog that is going put pressure on from the word go. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,674 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 How many people to day do you know would run the fen without saulki in there make up????? well i have,,,,,and blanked serriously though , if i was running them all the time i woulld ask one of my mates for a well bred couring pup But everyone knows you've never had a good dog Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 is there no big land in scotland no? or wales? there is coz i've seen it Compared to the fens, no. A large field up here is roughly 30 hectares. Average field more like 50 acres. If you think they are as big as the fens, fair dos Quote Link to post
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