coursing

[black recking it 730]

who would want to run a match on small shitty fields with bad fences ect ?

why what,s wrong with it is it more of a challenge to a dog that just need,s to run for a long time let me no

the problem of running matches in small feilds is FAIRNESS one dog may get 2 or 3 runs where his hare runs in the feild and the the other dogs hare gets to cover quick not giving the dog chance to shine. At least on big open land theres no excuse for either dog alough theres always a bit of lucky in a match as your running a hare and not your opponent.

 

when you say feilds "STUBBLE" I bet you mean newmarket, royston and that kind of land that dogs have matched on in the past as opposed to the vast fens, but as you say a decent saluki lurcher will kill hares in newmarket.

 

but I think theres rabbit men talking about sheep feilds and paddocks, and thats what I was talking about at the start saying you cant realy have a fair match there.

very good valid point,s coming across but the big land and saluki make in a dog is all way,s going to suit that type of dog for that type of land but on the other hand the smaller type field,s suit the dog,s with no saluki in there make-up i do see your point,s of view horses for courses i have saluki in all my dog,s make-up

[bull101 35]

top pics tomo

[TOMO 27,190]

iv seen a lot of none saluki lurchers run hares and do well not saying they could do 5 or 6 mins but seen alot that could do 3 mins and few that could do 4 or slightly more. they also seem to recover a lot quicker than the saluki types maybe because of not having that 6 mins in them but could do a lot of work in the day and in ireland were better to stay on the hare around cover and fences as anyone over will tell yea we have no shortage of a lot of these dogs are still in alot of the dogs that are around today but most if not all would have saluki blood in them now

If a non saluki blooded dog could run for three or four minutes , how many times during the day could he this ? Once i reckon , and then hed be rolling around in a pool of throth , blowing out of his arse !! He certainly is not going to have the recovery rate of a saluki bred dog, neither is he going to be as good around cover . Its not just about staminer , its about style , controlled pace , and coursing sence , which the saluki has loads of naturally . You cant beat the right type of coursing dog on big or small land .When was the last time a normal lurcher won a match !!??

 

the bitch i put up could run, 4-5 hares in a day

 

heres a pic of her winning a comp

 

 

 

and just to prove it wernt a fluke, heres another pic the year after, in the final, but she was runner up this year,,, the red collar

 

I thought we was talking about single handed !!!

 

bloody hell,, you looking for a bite are you related to baw

 

yep the comp was double handed,,, the very first pic i put up was her on her own killing hares,

also to get to the final, she beat spodge in the quater final

 

now would i prefer saluki in a coursing dog,,, of course i would i like them a hole lot.................but that wasn't the question was it.... and a few of us have put up dogs without saluki in that could do a bit.... you will just have to live with that fact

[baw 4,360]

who would want to run a match on small shitty fields with bad fences ect ?

 

Just out of interest, what percentage do you think this country has small fields compared to large open expanses like the fens? Atleast 90 percent of the uk is smallish fields. So by that reckoning 90 of the dogs are bred for this type of terrain but unfortunately the 10 percent left have the biggest egos. Fen guys don't want to run tight fields cod they know the odds are stacked in favour of the hare for a change and we can't have that. Unfortunately I've had my wings clipped so won't be participating in your interesting debate as much as I'd like, all the better I hear you say

[stubblebasher 150]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

[speedie 329]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

[TOMO 27,190]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

[boyo 1,398]

stubblebasher you are correct the best coursing dogs are saluki crosses but i think this post proves you can catch hares daytime with non saluki blood lurchers .but not many are going to go out and buy a pup specifacally for long ears that has not got any saluki blood in it imo.

[speedie 329]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

thanks tomo the reason i ask is yea hear a lot of stories about those top dogs in england and i seen alot of them on dvd and before anyone says anythink i think that splodge was a top dog as was captian and alot more of that breed but the way some people tell me they were breed a lot of these dogs are half saluki or less or slightly more in some cases

Edited May 3, 2011 by speedie

[stubblebasher 150]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

thanks tomo the reason i ask is yea hear a lot of stories about those top dogs in england and i seen alot of them on dvd and before anyone says anythink i think that splodge was a top dog as was captian and alot more of that breed but the way some people tell me they were breed a lot of these dogs are half saluki or less or slightly more in some cases

The fractions of saluki in most coursing dogs have been lost through the breeding , now its just line breeding or one type to another to try and complementeach other

[baldockbanks courser 598]

who would want to run a match on small shitty fields with bad fences ect ?

 

Just out of interest, what percentage do you think this country has small fields compared to large open expanses like the fens? Atleast 90 percent of the uk is smallish fields. So by that reckoning 90 of the dogs are bred for this type of terrain but unfortunately the 10 percent left have the biggest egos. Fen guys don't want to run tight fields cod they know the odds are stacked in favour of the hare for a change and we can't have that. Unfortunately I've had my wings clipped so won't be participating in your interesting debate as much as I'd like, all the better I hear you say

thats handy wont have to listen to your bo*lox M.B will we.

[speedie 329]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

thanks tomo the reason i ask is yea hear a lot of stories about those top dogs in england and i seen alot of them on dvd and before anyone says anythink i think that splodge was a top dog as was captian and alot more of that breed but the way some people tell me they were breed a lot of these dogs are half saluki or less or slightly more in some cases

The fractions of saluki in most coursing dogs have been lost through the breeding , now its just line breeding or one type to another to try and complementeach other

a question for yea then do yea think that a lot of these dogs need some fresh blood in or are they producing as many top dogs as ever and is alot of this line breeding a shot in the dark or hit and miss

[baldockbanks courser 598]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

thanks tomo the reason i ask is yea hear a lot of stories about those top dogs in england and i seen alot of them on dvd and before anyone says anythink i think that splodge was a top dog as was captian and alot more of that breed but the way some people tell me they were breed a lot of these dogs are half saluki or less or slightly more in some cases

The fractions of saluki in most coursing dogs have been lost through the breeding , now its just line breeding or one type to another to try and complementeach other

a question for yea then do yea think that a lot of these dogs need some fresh blood in or are they producing as many top dogs as ever and is alot of this line breeding a shot in the dark or hit and miss

its hard to say because the amount of dogs are not getting tested like they was 10 years ago.

[rolysmate 49]

plus i would have thought our irish freinds would have been running a few on longears without saluki owing to the running ground over there.talking of which i was in a mates up north having a cuppa a few weeks back and there was a bitch in his back yard that looked like a little lamping bitch wouldnt give her house room for looks but looks are deceiving its the same bitch that drew 4 apeice with jason bs good dog earlier in the year and has won a lot of matches in ireland and over here on the big land .she proved never judge a book by its cover lol.and not sure but think she didnt have any saluki in her or if she did it was very little way back .

I think youl find theres plenty of saluki in her make up . Come on boys who we trying to kid , we are generations past streight lurchers for coursing , weve got far superior dogs now

cant answer this the way i would like dont want to start up an old argument but youl find a lot of the dogs that are still run over here have less saluki in their make up than people might think talking qurter or less in alot of them and just a question for tomo if yea could answer that splodge dog yea mentioned how much saluki would their be in him if yea would know

 

sorry fella i dont know,,, i think i know how he was bred though if thats any help,, his sire was captin, and i think his dam was chance... and i belive both these two were line bred coursing dogs with a good chunk of saluki in there. im shure miles will know better.

thanks tomo the reason i ask is yea hear a lot of stories about those top dogs in england and i seen alot of them on dvd and before anyone says anythink i think that splodge was a top dog as was captian and alot more of that breed but the way some people tell me they were breed a lot of these dogs are half saluki or less or slightly more in some cases

The fractions of saluki in most coursing dogs have been lost through the breeding , now its just line breeding or one type to another to try and complementeach other

a question for yea then do yea think that a lot of these dogs need some fresh blood in or are they producing as many top dogs as ever and is alot of this line breeding a shot in the dark or hit and miss

its hard to say because the amount of dogs are not getting tested like they was 10 years ago.

 

 

 

Your not wrong there, there are not the numbers now due to the harsh penalties but lets hope for a repeal

Edited May 3, 2011 by rolysmate

[baldockbanks courser 598]

repeal will only help those with permission, the cuts may help to scale down the cousing operations with a little luck.