working salukis

[riohog 5,729]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

i know what your saying mate but some people make out saluki x are stupid,so why would anyone work full saluki

well the folk in the middle east have been doing it for several thousand years , and it works for them ,,.......so why not!! think its more to do with being aware of its abilities ,,, give them the oppertunaties ,give them there heads if the instinct is there let em use it !

just a question and dont take it the wrong way if these people in the middle east are so smart whats the news about as in if yea turn on the tv yea can see that a lot of what these people done for thousands of years was not very switched on as for salukis i have seen a fair few work none of which i would wish to own but they may have somethink to offer in the make up of a lurcher if you want to run big ears but as for any type of other work i would wonder what they can add to the qulites of a working dog they tend to be slow to react slow to listen and slow as in speed maybe not all but a lot of them and a lot of them seem to me to throw in the towel more than a lot of other breeds

well if like you say they have all those negative point.. there must be a lot of folk that have made misstakes by adding them to there breeding .. and i dont think they have made the misstake ,,but there again maybe its about the challange and understanding and yes not all folk have the pattience or understsnding .. so in my mind they are not for them if you aint got the commitment dont bother or it just becomes another dog passed around or stuck in a kennell somewhere

Edited May 3, 2011 by riohog

[speedie 329]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

i know what your saying mate but some people make out saluki x are stupid,so why would anyone work full saluki

well the folk in the middle east have been doing it for several thousand years , and it works for them ,,.......so why not!! think its more to do with being aware of its abilities ,,, give them the oppertunaties ,give them there heads if the instinct is there let em use it !

just a question and dont take it the wrong way if these people in the middle east are so smart whats the news about as in if yea turn on the tv yea can see that a lot of what these people done for thousands of years was not very switched on as for salukis i have seen a fair few work none of which i would wish to own but they may have somethink to offer in the make up of a lurcher if you want to run big ears but as for any type of other work i would wonder what they can add to the qulites of a working dog they tend to be slow to react slow to listen and slow as in speed maybe not all but a lot of them and a lot of them seem to me to throw in the towel more than a lot of other breeds

well if like you say they have all those negative point.. there must be a lot of folk that have made misstakes by adding them to there breeding .. and i dont think they have made the misstake ,,but there again maybe its about the challange and understanding and yes not all folk have the pattience or understsnding .. so in my mind they are not for them if you aint got the commitment dont bother or it just becomes another dog passed around or stuck in a kennell somewhere

thanks for the most honest answer to a question i asked on here since i joined

[birddog 1,354]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

i know what your saying mate but some people make out saluki x are stupid,so why would anyone work full saluki

well the folk in the middle east have been doing it for several thousand years , and it works for them ,,.......so why not!! think its more to do with being aware of its abilities ,,, give them the oppertunaties ,give them there heads if the instinct is there let em use it !

just a question and dont take it the wrong way if these people in the middle east are so smart whats the news about as in if yea turn on the tv yea can see that a lot of what these people done for thousands of years was not very switched on as for salukis i have seen a fair few work none of which i would wish to own but they may have somethink to offer in the make up of a lurcher if you want to run big ears but as for any type of other work i would wonder what they can add to the qulites of a working dog they tend to be slow to react slow to listen and slow as in speed maybe not all but a lot of them and a lot of them seem to me to throw in the towel more than a lot of other breeds

well if like you say they have all those negative point.. there must be a lot of folk that have made misstakes by adding them to there breeding .. and i dont think they have made the misstake ,,but there again maybe its about the challange and understanding and yes not all folk have the pattience or understsnding .. so in my mind they are not for them if you aint got the commitment dont bother or it just becomes another dog passed around or stuck in a kennell somewhere

 

I think its back to the horses for courses thing, no doubt there are salukis and their offspring that have bottomless stamina and wear down their quarry after lengthy and spectacular courses, and hats off to them if thats your thing but how many work cover, retrieve shot game or work with nets long or gate. and not that i would break the law but if i was after a hare my logic would tell me to get your business over and done with as quick as possible, don't see the point in 6 or 7 minute courses where all and sundry can watch

[arcticgun 4,548]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

so why x with them ???

horses for courses mate.. some are not quick enough for some lads needs and land they run... we could say that about a lot of dogs why cross them... greyhound... whippet... deerhound to name a few... my answer would be to meet our needs for purpose of use

 

 

well said latchy,could not have put it better the majority of salukiurcher type crosses out perform the pures in this country thats obvious or one would have won the forley cup etc back in the heyday,, a good few lads say they ain't worth bothering with cause the alternative saluki lurcher is much better, and from what little I know likely they right, but...why not have working saluki as well,cannot do any harm and its certainly better for the saluki itself, must be torture for them being kept as pets or worse as a show pony.

im real lucky though rich i got workers and show ponys

 

 

they pretty handy with the ol' bin bag chasing as well ain't they, hows my boy doing anyhow, when you sending him home that bitch willkeepyou busy enough

[toby1066 413]

if i was after a hare my logic would tell me to get your business over and done with as quick as possible, don't see the point in 6 or 7 minute courses where all and sundry can watch

 

thats true in a lot of ways these days mate but what happens if your on land with good strong hares and the dog cant kill it in the first couple of minites? it needs to have the stamina to keep going til the end nobody wants a dog to have to run for 10 mins every time a hare gets up but its good to know they got it in them if they get a super fit hare that knows the score

[riohog 5,729]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

so why x with them ???

horses for courses mate.. some are not quick enough for some lads needs and land they run... we could say that about a lot of dogs why cross them... greyhound... whippet... deerhound to name a few... my answer would be to meet our needs for purpose of use

 

 

well said latchy,could not have put it better the majority of salukiurcher type crosses out perform the pures in this country thats obvious or one would have won the forley cup etc back in the heyday,, a good few lads say they ain't worth bothering with cause the alternative saluki lurcher is much better, and from what little I know likely they right, but...why not have working saluki as well,cannot do any harm and its certainly better for the saluki itself, must be torture for them being kept as pets or worse as a show pony.

im real lucky though rich i got workers and show ponys

 

 

they pretty handy with the ol' bin bag chasing as well ain't they, hows my boy doing anyhow, when you sending him home that bitch willkeepyou busy enough

they are doing just fine rich.. he knows were is homw is !! so does she!!!

[baw 4,360]

I suppose it's what you like, I prefer to see a speedy dog burn out than a plodder grind out a result. Each to there own

[riohog 5,729]

if i was after a hare my logic would tell me to get your business over and done with as quick as possible, don't see the point in 6 or 7 minute courses where all and sundry can watch

 

thats true in a lot of ways these days mate but what happens if your on land with good strong hares and the dog cant kill it in the first couple of minites? it needs to have the stamina to keep going til the end nobody wants a dog to have to run for 10 mins every time a hare gets up but its good to know they got it in them if they get a super fit hare that knows the score

thats the point im making dont just think they are one trick ponys give them the chance to be an allrounding hunting dog if the instinct is there to hunt let it use it!

[toby1066 413]

if scottish fields didnt have all them fences and little woods round them and things you wouldnt feel the same mate if the land was open and courses didnt come to a stop cos of the terrain, would the fast burnouts be up to the task? genuine question?

[baw 4,360]

if scottish fields didnt have all them fences and little woods round them and things you wouldnt feel the same mate if the land was open and courses didnt come to a stop cos of the terrain, would the fast burnouts be up to the task? genuine question?

 

No they wouldn't our you ladies would still be running deerhound crosses etc. But if a hare out wits a dig for 5,6,7 minutes, I think it deserves to get away.

[arcticgun 4,548]

I suppose it's what you like, I prefer to see a speedy dog burn out than a plodder grind out a result. Each to there own

 

 

what about a fast dog that can also run slow, do the plod when the plod needs to be done,, maybe he the better dog :thumbs:the hare also has a say in matters

 

like most say horses for courses,I reckon the real good uns will do it most places, the ones with the heart, drive, breeding,gears etc

 

no one type of lurcher is superior to the others,no type of graft is better than the other,all horses for courses as long as you enjoy it and the dogs kept right whats the bother

Edited May 3, 2011 by arcticgun

[riohog 5,729]

if scottish fields didnt have all them fences and little woods round them and things you wouldnt feel the same mate if the land was open and courses didnt come to a stop cos of the terrain, would the fast burnouts be up to the task? genuine question?

 

No they wouldn't our you ladies would still be running deerhound crosses etc. But if a hare out wits a dig for 5,6,7 minutes, I think it deserves to get away.

and sometimes they do.. but if its cought after that time ,, the hunter wins and the hunted wasnt good enough to get away!! thats the way it is!!! wether its field /or fen or werever

[juckler123 707]

Once owned a fair dog that could kill fours and fives he was blown off on a couple of occasions good hares on the last run of the day he didnt like it neither did i luck had it he didnt blow, Even a non saluki type should be able to kill a few its when they dont kill em quick enough youve got problems especially on big land ive carried a few off that ran a race that was too much for them once blown they are never the same again seen it in others dogs as well better to have a bit of sal in there to start with just incase.

As regards the pures im trying my second one out now this one from a pup she will be out ferreting as well as running up to yet compared to the lurchers ive had id say she has a higher prey drive easily fast enough and been off the lead since i got her not a bit of trouble to be around aint thick and real good in cover for a youngster.

Edited May 3, 2011 by juckler123

[toby1066 413]

thats how i see it rio mate but its interesting to hear different opinions without the bickering makes a nice change Edited May 3, 2011 by toby1066

[northantscourser 118]

mine goes ferreting works the lamp does anything a lurcher does will mark rabbit sets

 

treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one

i know what your saying mate but some people make out saluki x are stupid,so why would anyone work full saluki

well the folk in the middle east have been doing it for several thousand years , and it works for them ,,.......so why not!! think its more to do with being aware of its abilities ,,, give them the oppertunaties ,give them there heads if the instinct is there let em use it !

just a question and dont take it the wrong way if these people in the middle east are so smart whats the news about as in if yea turn on the tv yea can see that a lot of what these people done for thousands of years was not very switched on as for salukis i have seen a fair few work none of which i would wish to own but they may have somethink to offer in the make up of a lurcher if you want to run big ears but as for any type of other work i would wonder what they can add to the qulites of a working dog they tend to be slow to react slow to listen and slow as in speed maybe not all but a lot of them and a lot of them seem to me to throw in the towel more than a lot of other breeds

well if like you say they have all those negative point.. there must be a lot of folk that have made misstakes by adding them to there breeding .. and i dont think they have made the misstake ,,but there again maybe its about the challange and understanding and yes not all folk have the pattience or understsnding .. so in my mind they are not for them if you aint got the commitment dont bother or it just becomes another dog passed around or stuck in a kennell somewhere

 

I think its back to the horses for courses thing, no doubt there are salukis and their offspring that have bottomless stamina and wear down their quarry after lengthy and spectacular courses, and hats off to them if thats your thing but how many work cover, retrieve shot game or work with nets long or gate. and not that i would break the law but if i was after a hare my logic would tell me to get your business over and done with as quick as possible, don't see the point in 6 or 7 minute courses where all and sundry can watch

like i said mate mine works with ferrets and nets alot of the time in very small feilds and not many rabbits get away from him as for retrieveing